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re: What if everything is wrong with healthcare

Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Nutrition goes beyond the healthcare debate and moves into other huge parts of our society -- the food industry is entirely incorrect too. The way we grow, produce, distribute, sell is not as it should be.


I agree. The govt should give us 'food coupons' determined by what is scientifically best for us. Everyone could get a coupon each week for some Kale, some lentils and some mineral water.
If you want meat you can get soy protein instead.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:32 pm to
Have you ever looked at the financials of one of these co-called charity hospitals? They may be registered with the IRS as a non-profit, but they are anything but a charity.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:35 pm to
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I agree. The govt should give us 'food coupons' determined by what is scientifically best for us. Everyone could get a coupon each week for some Kale, some lentils and some mineral water.
If you want meat you can get soy protein instead.


Stfu.

You're a joke.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:36 pm to
It's hilarious that you are now an expert on the healthcare industry, the banking industry and the food industry and you know more about those industries than people who work in them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43335 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:37 pm to
BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Have you ever looked at the financials of one of these co-called charity hospitals? They may be registered with the IRS as a non-profit, but they are anything but a charity.


1. The patients pay ZERO.

2. The patients don't have INSURANCE.

There is a difference between 'charity' and 'non profit.'
Here in Shreveport the charity hospital was called Confederate. That had to be changed so it went to LSU. Now it's University. Tomorrow it might be MLK. But it's the hospital for people with no money or insurance.

Willis Knighton is a non-profit. It is NOT a charity hospital. Poor folks don't go there unless it's the ER. And poor people do go to the ER there because it's nicer than the charity hospital.

But it sure as hell isn't a 'market' system. If it were people would pay for service out of pocket or buy insurance. If you have neither your options are friends, family, church, lie in the gutter and die while thinking of all the stupid decisions you made to get yourself into this situation.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:40 pm to
You're a bad person. Period.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:44 pm to
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You're a bad person. Period.

Well, now that's just going too far. Would you like to apologize to Russian?
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:45 pm to
Coming from you, that's a compliment. Seriously.

You're the most narcissist poster on this site. By far.

You're an expert on everything and yet you know nothing of any substance.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22939 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Stfu. You're a joke.


This is why we cant have nice things.
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:49 pm to
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You're a bad person. Period.


#thatescalatedquickly
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't know any doctor that lives a modest lifestyle if you get my drift.
You don't know many doctors. You're sorely mistaken if you think physician salaries are the cause of our broken healthcare system.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:52 pm to
This OP is calling for people to discuss something from a different perspective.

We spend a lot of time debating and being split as a nation over who should pay for healthcare, but there is little discussion on the nature of healthcare itself.

Making that observation and calling for others to join in on this perspective is not acting like an expert. You overplayed you hand. (Insert response with quotes of mine saying 'everything is wrong with healthcare and the food industry).

You were definititely called a narcissist at one point in your life. It upset you so much that you decided to use it in your arsenal online. At this point when you say it it's like watching someone with dementia repeat themselves -- it has no power or meaning.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:53 pm to
People from all across the world come here and pay for healthcare that is better than they can receive at home. We must be doing something right on the care side. It's the cost side that we are having issues with.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Doctors are not educated so much as they're indoctrinated to do what benefits the complex of the medical industry.



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Willis Knighton is a non-profit. It is NOT a charity hospital. Poor folks don't go there unless it's the ER. And poor people do go to the ER there because it's nicer than the charity hospital.
There is no longer such a thing as a "charity hospital" in Louisiana. That used to refer to the public hospital system in Louisiana, but that system is no longer in place after they were all privatized.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Stfu. You're a joke.


This is why we cant have nice things.


Right.

Because the comment that initiated that response isn't why we can't have nice things.

Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
It's part of it. The overall cost of the whole behemoth is the problem.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:56 pm to
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People from all across the world come here and pay for healthcare that is better than they can receive at home. We must be doing something right on the care side. It's the cost side that we are having issues with.


In certain ways we have excellent healthcare, worthy of coming here from all parts of the globe.

It's a bit of a paradox. It takes some cognitive weight lifting to see why. It's really easy to stunt thought at the fact you provided.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Have you ever looked at the financials of one of these co-called charity hospitals? They may be registered with the IRS as a non-profit, but they are anything but a charity
Give me an example of a "charity" hospital other than the now defunct Charity Hospital in New Orleans.
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