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re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Do you think someone who kills someone in self-defense or in combat is morally wrong?
That’s a hard judgement to make. A friend of mine served on many tours and likely killed many people. He’s someone I would classify as a good person who has done a lot of good for suffering people since his military days. Humans are complex and don’t often fit nicely into boxes.
Why are you so grumpy? You don’t have to be.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:27 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you think someone who kills someone in self-defense or in combat is morally wrong?
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That’s a hard judgement to make.
Please explain this to me. It's a hard judgement to make that it might be morally wrong to kill someone in self defense? Seriously? What, exactly, makes that a hard judgement?
Seems to me to be one of the easiest, simplest, quickest judgements that could be made.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:29 pm to BugAC
quote:And she’s against any law that tells her what she can/can’t do with her body.
am against any law mandating humans get injected with a covid vaccine.
I’m simply pointing out that women are half the voting bloc and this is how they feel. Look at the polls and every other statistic. The majority of Americans are against outlawing abortion entirely.
Keep it a personal, family, and state issue.
Otherwise keep ignoring this fact and continue to bleed voters, GOP.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:30 pm to 4cubbies
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That’s a hard judgement to make. A friend of mine served on many tours and likely killed many people. He’s someone I would classify as a good person who has done a lot of good for suffering people since his military days. Humans are complex and don’t often fit nicely into boxes.
OK, but you'd probably prefer he be here than anyone who was trying to kill him?
I'm not asking if you're a bloodthirsty warmonger or vigilante.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Why even ask that?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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OK, but you'd probably prefer he be here than anyone who was trying to kill him?
"That's a hard decision to make. What makes his life more valuable than the person trying to take his life?" (4Cubbies Probably)
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:39 pm to 4cubbies
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Why even ask that?
If your answer is yes, you have at least tacitly supported killing someone.
If the answer is no, well, I think you know where that leads...
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If your answer is yes, you have at least tacitly supported killing someone.
If the answer is no, well, I think you know where that leads.
Which is precisely why, rather than actually answer the question, she simply asked you why you would dare ask such a question.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:42 pm to MemphisGuy
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Which is precisely why, rather than actually answer the question, she simply asked you why you would dare ask such a question.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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tacitly
You looked it up!!!
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:48 pm to BBONDS25
It was fresh in my mind. You can have an assist if you stop pretending it's a new word. 
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:52 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
Simply put, the Republican Party is wearing Trump and the Dobbs decision around their neck like an albatross and it’s killing them.
They’ve managed to successfully piss off a HUGE swath of the voting female population in this country with their underhanded handling of Roe v. Wade.
These voting women watched as Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell paraded these judges onto national television and all three of them then blatantly lied under oath, stating that Roe v Wade was “settled precedent”.
Did the GOP think women would just forget that?
Trust me, I’ve been married twenty-three years, women don’t forget shite. Republicans are married to Trump’s court and to the Dobbs decision.
They’ve managed to successfully piss off a HUGE swath of the voting female population in this country with their underhanded handling of Roe v. Wade.
These voting women watched as Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell paraded these judges onto national television and all three of them then blatantly lied under oath, stating that Roe v Wade was “settled precedent”.
Did the GOP think women would just forget that?
Trust me, I’ve been married twenty-three years, women don’t forget shite. Republicans are married to Trump’s court and to the Dobbs decision.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:54 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It was fresh in my mind. You can have an assist if you stop pretending it's a new word.
Call me John Stockton, my friend.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:57 pm to BBONDS25
Don't let the LeBros hear you bringing up that name with the insinuation that he was anything but some "bum arse plumber." 
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:00 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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I find it amazing that we sit here and argue with each other over the right to kill our young.
It’s not an argument.
Killing babies in the womb is a disgusting satanic practice and those that preform it, have it preformed on them and even support it are forfeiting their souls to the father of lies and they will regret it when it’s too late to repent.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:00 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If the answer is no, well, I think you know where that leads
More attempts at gotchas?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:04 pm to 4cubbies
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More attempts at gotchas?
Attempts?
Look up. I got your arse.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:06 pm to MemphisGuy
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What makes his life more valuable than the person trying to take his life?"
It’s objectively not more valuable. That’s the problem. If someone believes in human dignity, all humans have it. Even humans you don’t like. Dignity doesn’t come from a person so we don’t get to decide who has it and who doesn’t.
If you want to argue that human dignity doesn’t exist, ok. Then no life has innate value. Not even unborn babies.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:08 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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The answer isn't killing off our young wholesale. This is playing right into the hands of those who rule over us who intend to destroy us.
The genes that want the right to do this aren't doing the pool any good anyway.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:28 pm to 4cubbies
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It’s objectively not more valuable. That’s the problem.
Just so I understand you correctly... the life of me or my loved ones is NOT objectively more valuable then the life of someone trying to kill me or them or even rape my wife or daughter? And based on that, just because they are trying to kill or rape, I still have no right to kill them because... who am I to say that I am more worthy of living than they are? That... is your position?
Or am I missing something here?
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 5:32 pm
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