re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....

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I have a pretty good track record, 6 for six.

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I don’t know what this means.

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The doctine behind ‘turn the other cheek’ is simply a call to forgone revenge

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What is capital punishment if not revenge?

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I don’t know what this means.

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He has 6 children.

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What is capital punishment if not revenge?

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Punishment. Thus the last word.

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Punishment. Thus the last word.

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Punishment is revenge.

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What is capital punishment if not revenge?


Punishment. Thus the last word.

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ISWYDT

There's a clip on YT of some purple haired thing arguing with Ben Shapiro about girls being allowed into the Boy Scouts...she says to Ben, "Show me where it's written that the Boy Scouts is only for boys." Ben's reply: "In the name."

It’s a protection of the rest of society via deterrent for one thing. The instruction to turn the other cheek wasn’t given for someone that had been been murdered. Slapping is a minor offense compared to murder. You keep trying to act as if everything is equal and there are no distinctions. Even the commonly used argument such as ‘dont look at a woman with lust because it’s an act of committing adultry in your heart’ means God views the two as equivalent, is completely wrong. The very analogy of the two extremes of the sin of lust is a distinction. To act as God doesn’t make distinctions is naive at best, but utter stupidity at worst.?

a life is a life, you can make all the excuses you want but that statement is true.

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an innocent life is an innocent life, you can make all the excuses you want but that statement is true.

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FIFY

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a life is a life, you can make all the excuses you want but that statement is true.

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You need to step off of your faux moral high ground.

A woman in her late 40s, matriarch of her close knit family, worked cleaning a building in the financial district of New York. One day, she went into work and never came home. Her coworkers called her family, family went to the building to look for her, police were called. Building was shut down. No trace of her ever leaving the building was found. For 4 days the police combed over that building, reviewing surveillance cameras. They got a hit when they noticed a contractor that worked in the building get off on the same floor the woman was last scene entering. He was interviewed, told to remove his shirt, scratches all over his arms and torso. Police asked where that came from, he said it was helping workers move rebar and materials. Police had no body so had to release him. 8 days later, this poor woman's body was found, stuffed in the air conditioning vent. She could not be identified except for the cross that she wore to work every day and dental records due to decomposition. Police took DNA samples and swaps of fingernails, hair, etc... No sexual assault, no strangulation marks. SHe was hogtied and ductaped, and to a way that it was difficult to breathe, then while alive, shoved in an AC vent, and died there, slowly, as her family and police, searched the building, unable to scream, unable to call out, meanwhile hearing her name being called out. The psychopath that killed her gave no explanation other than the police believe since he had a violent history with women, she was wrong time wrong place and told him something that set him off. He was found guilty, smiled at the victims family, unrepentent, unremorseful. He was given 25 years to life, because it was NY.

A young woman has sex with her boyfriend, and gets pregnant. Because she is young and believes that kid would be the reason she can't attend college or do what she wants to do with her life, she aborts the baby. That baby could have grown up to love, and be loved, by all around her. She could have opened her first presents at christmas, gone to her first daddy/daughter dance. Loved on her first puppy. Play soccer with other young kids. Go to school, become a doctor, fall in love, get married and have her own kids.

In short, you believe the murderer is more deserving of clemency, than the child who committed no offense to anyone and is only guilty of being conceived by an irresponsible woman?

Your moral high ground isn't so high anymore, is it?

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Wait, what? Abortion bans aren’t about legal classifications? Then why criminalize it?

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Let's put it another way:

The burden of proof isn't on my to affirm legal protections, or to affirm citizenship. It's for you to prove why they aren't citizens.

And your answer is not, "Because they don't have a document." Because they didn't have a document before and were assumed to be citizens.

For the vast majority of time 1) Babies were humans 2) Those humans were citizens. The country operated like this since it's inception. No one questioned the life in the womb, and no one questioned that that person was a citizen. And all laws that had been crafted aligned with that.

It's only recently that it changed, and only because we wanted the right to kill people. But there's never been good rational proof on that - only very modern relative "muh body my choice," stuff. It's never been about either some legal classification or even science. It's a pure emotional request that has never been proven out.