re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....

The “killing babies” trope is weakening your argument. People aren’t arguing for the right to kill babies. But many of you are determined argue that aborting fully viable fetuses is the norm. The reality is actually. the contrary. 3rd trimester abortions are rare and then only when a matter of life and death.

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Do you believe humans possess innate value? If you do, then you understand that, objectively, no life is worth more than another. Do I personally value the lives of my kids more than the lives of virtually anyone else? Of course. That doesn’t mean anyone else does or that their lives objectively possess more worth than anyone else’s.

Someone doing a bad thing doesn’t erase their human dignity. It isn’t measurable. Humans all have it or we don’t.

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Neo-Kantianism is fun in a classroom. Just wait until next semester.

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Thou shalt not kill doesn’t have any fine print.

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Of course it does. I'd also steer clear of relying on a translation error to support your argument.

We will all stand before the Father or Jesus (if saved) one day and account for our actions.

Good luck explaining the "right to abortion" stance to the Almighty. Sounds like a terrible thing to experience.

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with a dash of mythological seasoning.

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Of course. If it’s not your belief, it must be mythology.

Calling you out for being a know-it-all makes me a fundamentalist weirdo now?

Idk. I wear pants and get haircuts.

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Calling you out for being a know-it-all makes me a fundamentalist weirdo now?

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It was a question based on your emotional response to my observation.

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I wear pants and get haircuts.

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OK, then you accept that there's at least some mythology in religion.

That wasn't so hard, was it?

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you’re nothing if not consistent.

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Correct.

Now, back to the discussion.

Kantianism is your flavor, unless it's someone you know. In that case, how dare I...

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Kantianism is your flavor

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That’s your presumption. I already corrected you but you’re committed to Kant. Why?

Call me a fundamentalist weirdo but innate human dignity exists because humans are made in the image and likeness of God. And before you go all pompous intellectual and allude to being way more educated than me, people with post-graduate degrees skew religious.

Do you subscribe to utilitarianism? Would you be offended if I assumed you do?

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Well that changes everything!

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Glad to have helped clear that up.

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That’s your presumption.

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Human dignity is a central concept in Kantian ethics. In the context of the points you've made, there's no useful distinction between Kant and Aquinas. We also get the added benefit of reducing your emotional reactions when I insult your religion.

Hopefully that clears it up for you.

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Call me a fundamentalist weirdo but innate human dignity exists because humans are made in the image and likeness of God.

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So why do you have a preference for your friend's survival over the people he presumably killed? Were those individuals not made in the image and likeness of your god?

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And before you go all pompous intellectual and allude to being way more educated than me, people with post-graduate degrees skew religious.

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Education and intelligence aren't the same.

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Do you subscribe to utilitarianism?

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I dabble.

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Would you be offended if I assumed you do?

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Not at all. That would be an odd reaction.