re: Was Africa better off under European colonial rule?

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You may be excused now.

you mistakenly thought this was a forum for idiots.

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But, it is my belief that an overwhelming majority of the American plantation slaces came directly from west Africa - and were obtained by black tribes who captured ran from within their own population.

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this is CORRECT

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Post colonial is awful

but still preferable to post malone

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because you deserved it

Difficult to say.

What we can say is that, except for a handful of narrowly drawn situations, "colonialism" was a net loss for most European powers. I suppose the Dutch did the best because they were (in the long run) largely in it for the trade.

The motivations for the colonial powers can be summed up, somewhat succinctly (they were all looking for natural resources for the most part, so we'll skip that):

1. England - export their culture and language, strategic ports from which to operate the Royal Navy

2. Spain - extract wealth and spread Catholicism

3. Dutch - trade

4. France and Belgium - Everybody else is doing it (but, mainly, natural resources, see above)

5. German - Johnny come lately without much of a navy, mainly the same reason France and Belgium were doing it

Spain definitely benefitted at first, but they were an "extinguish first and try to convert what's left afterwards" and are truly the most banal, malignant and egregious example of European colonialism (and that was largely in the Western Hemisphere).

But, there was no European class infrastructure in Africa, the New World or South/Southeast Asia. All of that had to be built and maintained at an incredible cost. The cost of governance, alone, of say, India, was a threat to the stability of the British Empire.

India was probably the best shape at the beginning and, arguably, India benefitted the absolute most from European colonialism (if you don't count the United States because the indigenous people were displaced, which is fair). Africa didn't walk away "empty handed" from colonialism, but probably as big a mixed bag as there is. Obviously, the Central and South America that "was" ended up being completely displaced by what the Spanish (and in a notable exception, the Portuguese) created.

Africa is probably a wash. Indigenous African culture is over 1000 (or more) years behind Europe and Asia and maybe they prefer it that way.

Absolutely it was better off under European colonial rule (except for apartheid)

I don’t mean to sound racist but facts are facts! Name one country that is run by either Africans or descendants of Africans (like the Caribbean) that is better off than a European/Anglo country!?

It’s not that they aren’t as capable, the problem is that corruption is ingrained in their culture, same with every Latin American country.

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Arab slave traders who then sold them to European slave traders who sold them to plantation owners in the Western Hemisphere

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But, it is my belief that an overwhelming majority of the American plantation slaces came directly from west Africa - and were obtained by black tribes who captured ran from within their own population.

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I think you missed a point that he did not really address.

Arab traders established outposts (later entire cities) in West Africa long before discovery of the Americas, from which they traded both goods and slaves. For the most part, they acquired those slaves from the locals who captured them in wars and in raids. Mostly, they transported those slaves to the Middle East.

I do not think he is saying that the European slave traders were buying slaves from Arabs in the eastern Med for transport to the Americas. ESPECIALLY after discovery of the Americas and the pandemic near-extinction of THAT native labor force, European slave traders simply started replacing that labor force by purchasing West African slaves from those Arab middle men … IN West Africa. The Europeans (and later Americans) then transported their purchases across the Atlantic and resold them there.

Is that why their corruption is about 100 times worse??……..because of whitey’s fault? Lol

There is a video where Reverend James David Manning touches on this a little bit.