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re: UAW Local 31 SCAB LIST - These evil workers didn't join the union
Posted on 10/11/14 at 1:37 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 10/11/14 at 1:37 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:that is false. The bargaining agreement is for the site, not for the union members. All workers work under the contract.
Employers are free to pay non-union workers less anywhere in the U.S..
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Posted on 10/11/14 at 5:51 am to SpidermanTUba
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quote:Define free loaders! Anyone with union negotiated wages and benefits who doesn't pay either agency fees or union dues.
Does Freeloaders also define those that live off the taxes of others. I.E. those that choose not to work because they are lazy? And waste my taxes that were extorted from my paycheck for their own wastefulness?
Posted on 10/11/14 at 6:35 am to SpidermanTUba
frick you, you fricking frick.
Unions are absolutely worthless.
Unions are absolutely worthless.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 7:34 am to goldennugget
Good for them. Can't imagine why they would be opposed to having even more hands in their pockets.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 8:06 am to goldennugget
I would be part of the scab list. That would be like a badge of honor.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 8:38 am to EA6B
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Which should be the right of any business in every state.
So businesses have a right - to NOT have a right - to sign a union shop agreement! Sounds like classic nanny state 'freedom', doesn't it?
Posted on 10/11/14 at 8:42 am to gatorrocks
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I would be part of the scab list. That would be like a badge of honor.
Congratulations on being a proud free loader who needs the nanny state to dictate to his employer what kind of contracts he is allowed to sign.
This post was edited on 10/11/14 at 8:43 am
Posted on 10/11/14 at 8:48 am to SpidermanTUba
The people on this list are brave heroes for personal freedom for standing up to the oppressive thugs in the UAW.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 8:48 am to SpidermanTUba
Serious question:
Union dues are paid through payroll contributions, right? Payroll information is confidential. If someone works for a company and is not part of the union, I don't see how the union is allowed to post that list.
As to the whole "freeloading" thing, if there is a union at a work site, and someone isn't part of the union, I don't think they should be allowed to get the union-negotiated wages and benefits. That person should negotiate their own wages and benefits. And, that may result in more, or less, wages and benefits for that employee.
Or, the company may decide that they will just go ahead and pay all the non-union employees the same that they pay the union employees. And if that's the case, LOL at the union, because it shows how completely unnecessary they are.
Union dues are paid through payroll contributions, right? Payroll information is confidential. If someone works for a company and is not part of the union, I don't see how the union is allowed to post that list.
As to the whole "freeloading" thing, if there is a union at a work site, and someone isn't part of the union, I don't think they should be allowed to get the union-negotiated wages and benefits. That person should negotiate their own wages and benefits. And, that may result in more, or less, wages and benefits for that employee.
Or, the company may decide that they will just go ahead and pay all the non-union employees the same that they pay the union employees. And if that's the case, LOL at the union, because it shows how completely unnecessary they are.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 9:03 am to LSUFanHouston
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As to the whole "freeloading" thing, if there is a union at a work site, and someone isn't part of the union, I don't think they should be allowed to get the union-negotiated wages and benefits. That person should negotiate their own wages and benefits. And, that may result in more, or less, wages and benefits for that employee.
That doesn't work in the real world. Employers don't want to be negotiating individual contracts with employees. Talk about a nightmare. The main difference for union/nonunion employees working at the same place is job protection. Discipline "agreements" are often worked into union contracts that give an employee protection from being completely dismissed should he/she have a slip up while employed. Nonunions members don't have this protection. They can be fired outright or go get them a lawyer.
I was in a transportation union (private) for 41 years and this was the main difference I saw in dealing with employees.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:18 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:Did you mean "the real world" as in the TV show? Because in actual practice, most employees in the US negotiate their own deal with an employer........get paid market rates for their skills, etc. etc. etc.
Employers don't want to be negotiating individual contracts with employees
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:21 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Congratulations on being a proud free loader who needs the nanny state to dictate to his employer what kind of contracts he is allowed to sign.
This from the parasite that lives off of the taxpayer.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:24 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Congratulations on being a proud free loader who needs the nanny state to dictate
What if it was because he would have negotiated a wage higher than the union one, being a superior worker, and having more to lose by striking?
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:27 pm to LSUFanHouston
It depends on where you are at and which company you work for.
I know up North some mfg plants you have to be union to work at that facility.
Other mfg plants Union people were paid one wage and non union another wage. Union employees receive their benefits through the union while non union receive them from the company. The difference in pay reflects basically the difference in cost of benefits to employer.
I know up North some mfg plants you have to be union to work at that facility.
Other mfg plants Union people were paid one wage and non union another wage. Union employees receive their benefits through the union while non union receive them from the company. The difference in pay reflects basically the difference in cost of benefits to employer.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:32 pm to ironsides
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most employees in the US negotiate their own deal with an employer........
Not where unions are involved I'd think. Anyway, you're not going to have some nonunion guy walk in and negotiate a salary higher than what union members are getting. The employer would be making a big mistake by doing that come next contract negotiating time for the union. So, why would an individual walk in and negotiate his own salary knowing he will be paid less than a union guy.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:37 pm to SpidermanTUba
Sounds like you need a union to find a job or argue for a wage! That's the true test of needing a nanny!
Posted on 10/11/14 at 1:09 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Sounds smart
Anyone with union negotiated wages and benefits who doesn't pay either agency fees or union dues.
Posted on 10/11/14 at 3:47 pm to SpidermanTUba
SCABS should be admired for refusing to let corrupt union leaders seize their wages to carry on with their huge salaries, political bribes, ect.
I don't why democrats hate these independent workers so much---oh they get most of the bribes. I forgot.
I don't why democrats hate these independent workers so much---oh they get most of the bribes. I forgot.
This post was edited on 10/11/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 10/11/14 at 4:11 pm to goldennugget
I admire them for having the guts to avoid signing up despite tactics like this.
I'm not against organized labor, but the UAW isn't like most unions. They are a useless bunch of dirt bags.
If they really wanted more membership, they'd stop associating exclusively with one party. Take a cue from the major corporate PACs and grease both wheels. Let Joe Bleaux from Tennessee or Kansas know that he's not supporting abortion, teacher unions, or government takeover of everything by paying dues to the UAW.
As it is now, they've brought politics into buying a Ford, GM, or Chrysler product. A lot of people won't buy American cars because they don't want to support the UAW and the political baggage associated with them.
I'm not against organized labor, but the UAW isn't like most unions. They are a useless bunch of dirt bags.
If they really wanted more membership, they'd stop associating exclusively with one party. Take a cue from the major corporate PACs and grease both wheels. Let Joe Bleaux from Tennessee or Kansas know that he's not supporting abortion, teacher unions, or government takeover of everything by paying dues to the UAW.
As it is now, they've brought politics into buying a Ford, GM, or Chrysler product. A lot of people won't buy American cars because they don't want to support the UAW and the political baggage associated with them.
This post was edited on 10/11/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 10/11/14 at 4:19 pm to goldennugget
You almost have to excuse the unions for being so desperate. They know they are edging closer and closer towards extinction, as they should be. Good riddance frickers.
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