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Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:08 pm to
Transgenders can serve in the military, they just don't get to choose their gender within the military ranks and thus governing instruction.

Transgender just means identifying with a different gender than birth gender, or biological sex.

You can consider yourself a fricking dolphin for all I care, but if you have a dick, balls, and a mans testorone/estrogen ratio just sleep in the male berthing/barracks and piss in the male bathroom. You can't sleep with the women, and no there will be not separate dolphin accommodations and regulations to make your stay more comfortable either.

This is about streamlining a large government entity rather than creating subgroups and additional training and facility requirements to cater to a state of mind.

This isn't even mentioning all the medical costs and time on limited duty status that comes with transition treatment. The military isn't here as a tool to facilitate everyone's desired anatomical alterations and treatments, it's here to defend the American people and their interests
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:09 pm to
His post isn't sane, it's selfish
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36181 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:10 pm to
You didn't think about it because it wasn't an issue. That's Trump's point.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

They might


You could say that about any subset of the population from old men to obese people to trannies to retards.

That doesn't mean they should be in the military.

What a stupid comment.
Posted by MsGarrison
Steele Town LOL
Member since Nov 2009
22009 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:13 pm to
I agree with you! Again, most of the ones posting on here are/were too chicken shite to enlist in the miltary. Yet, they are the first to babble off citing their two cents yelling about their tax dollars and prob don't even work.

This just all goes back to that stupid arse border wall because trump wants it built at any cost because Mexico ain't paying for it.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29770 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:24 pm to
I've never been in the service, much less in war, but I think its a fallacy to equate one specific situation like you did and extrapolate it to thousands of people in thousands of situations. As a manager you cannot forsee and prevent every situation and scenario but you can certainly mitigate certain situations from becoming reoccurring problems. Its why companies and governments perform drug test and background checks. Will it prevent every issue? No. Will it potentially prevent qualified people from filling that role? Yes. But in the aggregate it will mitigate more potential issues and allow for a greater number of candidates to succeed.

keep in mind that for every wackadoodle that you allow in, you are keeping a more qualified candidate on the sidelines.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:29 pm to
What a disgusting social experiment for our military, but it's not the first...the beat goes on.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15432 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:29 pm to
Since there is no such thing as transgender, I'll take the person in the military who isn't mentally ill.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

My thought today is if transgenders can toe the line along with others....no exceptions...let them serve. They might be the one who pulls your arse, or your sons arse out of the fire.




What if the goal was not to cover you in combat but to use the service as a vehicle for sex change operation?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11281 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:01 pm to
Can someone explain why the simplest answer isn't a pure meritocracy with this?

Set baseline standards that are truly applicable for roles and either a person meets the standards or does not, regardless of gender. That includes physical, intelligence and mental health tests along the way.
Posted by RDOtiger
Zachary
Member since Oct 2013
1146 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Transgenders are bull shite people with a sever mental illness.


Quote of the day!
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9200 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:26 pm to
If a person is that in conflict with themselves. How do you know whether they will stand tall and cover your 6 in battle.

Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76316 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:20 am to
I'm really tired of fricking trannies driving the political discourse lately. Suddenly I'm the past year or two, everyone is a tranny and everything is about trannies. They're like <1% of the population and most are mere cross dressers. They're the newest vehicle revved up by liberals as they steadily and stupidly drive the country to its trashy, third world, socialist destination.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:48 am to
and he gave you the standard response, your a stupid cuck
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:56 am to
I don't have a problem with them at all.

Don't don't tell me to live in their pretend world where they pretend they're a girl when they have a dick.

I won't indulge in that fantasy.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30886 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:08 am to
quote:

My hypothetical is much more likely to happen


WTF are you basing that idea on?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

My thought today is if transgenders can toe the line along with others....no exceptions...let them serve. They might be the one who pulls your arse, or your sons arse out of the fire.



So, give someone who is all hopped up on hormones access to weapons and ammo and lets see how the this experiment turns out?

If they want to serve, I am all for it... they can serve in the factories that send supplies to troops. There are plenty of ways to serve the US and not be issued a weapon.

This isnt about serving though... and we all know it.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52996 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:10 am to
Comparing people of other races to mentally ill trannies

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