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re: Trying to understand the media/lib stance on the ferguson stuff..
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:32 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:32 am to Jim Rockford
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However, the whole town isn't burning down, there's no sign of it spreading, either in the St Louis area or elsewhere, seemingly to the disappointment of some on both sides who would like this to be about something bigger.
Uh, one side wants this to continue and be "bigger". The other side believes it should never have started and that it should be over.
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:37 am to ChineseBandit58
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All they have left is the 'six shot' meme, but that is enough to continue with their narrative - pathetic.
It is sad that people don't see it for what it is. Baloney.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:47 am to lurker124
I'm a liberal, and from what I've learned, I believe the shooting was justified.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:56 am to XKEnut
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The media is trying to recreate Selma in 1964. They are all too young to have been there but are trying to convince themselves and you that they are part of something just as significant.
this.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:56 am to lurker124
The key witness recanted his story after the autopsy results showed he lied. This is the guy that should be strung up.
Think about it. If he had told the truth from the beginning This would of been just another thug getting killed for being a thug and no one would of heard of Ferguson.
The media and powers that be should interview this guy and have him admit the truth and play it on every TV.
Think about it. If he had told the truth from the beginning This would of been just another thug getting killed for being a thug and no one would of heard of Ferguson.
The media and powers that be should interview this guy and have him admit the truth and play it on every TV.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:07 am to TexasTiger89
As with the T. Martin scenario, I think the media will look pretty damn foolish when all this is over. However, they don't give a shite. They have nothing to lose. With the media if there is no story, let's make up one.
Somewhere down the line, probably not in my lifetime, the media will have to be held responsible for sensationalizing the news without evidence of proof of what they are reporting.
Somewhere down the line, probably not in my lifetime, the media will have to be held responsible for sensationalizing the news without evidence of proof of what they are reporting.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:17 am to moneyg
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Uh, one side wants this to continue and be "bigger". The other side believes it should never have started and that it should be over.
Not so sure about the latter part.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:29 am to lurker124
So you don't understand why one group, based on their political leanings, doesn't see your version of events when most of your version of events is based on hearsay, conjecture, or unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe Brown is the victimm here. Maybe Wilson is. I don't know, there's not enough info for anyone to say, but that hasn't stopped you from convicting Brown and being just as guilty as the side you don't understand.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:45 am to lurker124
It's about hatred at the core. A lot of people disguise their hate by pointing the finger.
blessed are the peacemakers
blessed are the peacemakers
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 6:52 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 6:51 am to TexasTiger89
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The key witness
Who also was an accessory to robbery less than an hour prior to the shooting.
The dumbassery in this whole ordeal is pathetic to the core. This further proves my point that Americans no longer stand for anything, because we fall for everything.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:10 am to C
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Maybe it's not a miracle and the police are generally acting more professionally than displayed by the media.
Like this guy?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:17 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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Old Hellen Yeller
huh?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:18 am to Jim Rockford
quote:immediately suspended.
Like this guy?
Proving that the system works in Ferguson.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:19 am to Roaad
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immediately suspended.
Proving that the system works in Ferguson.
Only suspended for yelling threats. The chief said he was justified in pointing the rifle at non resisting bystanders.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:27 am to moneyg
This whole situation is sad to watch
Especially with how our media covers news
It's crazy to see how many have their minds made up without even knowing all the facts yet. One video I watched was right after the shooting, and it amazed me how many would say what happened when someone new walked up on the tragic scene. The amazing part was they would begin or end their statements with "I didn't see what happened or wasn't here, but he was shot in cold blood with his hands up....." Another crazy thing was. The shooting didn't surprise many, but only the time of day did though. It's gotta be crazy & sad to live in a place where the 1st thing that comes to ones mind after a daytime shooting. Is it happened at daytime instead of nighttime.
The police made a huge mistake by not covering Brown's body up afterwards. That video shows just how quickly the narrative of being shot in cold blood spreads throughout the upset crowd. Whether that happened or not here isn't the point. All that will come to light as facts keep getting discovered, but when one watches that video it's easy to understand why the anger took off like it did. You can feel the anger building throughout the crowd while the body lied there uncovered. That sure didn't help cool an already intense situation at all.
Especially with how our media covers news
It's crazy to see how many have their minds made up without even knowing all the facts yet. One video I watched was right after the shooting, and it amazed me how many would say what happened when someone new walked up on the tragic scene. The amazing part was they would begin or end their statements with "I didn't see what happened or wasn't here, but he was shot in cold blood with his hands up....." Another crazy thing was. The shooting didn't surprise many, but only the time of day did though. It's gotta be crazy & sad to live in a place where the 1st thing that comes to ones mind after a daytime shooting. Is it happened at daytime instead of nighttime.
The police made a huge mistake by not covering Brown's body up afterwards. That video shows just how quickly the narrative of being shot in cold blood spreads throughout the upset crowd. Whether that happened or not here isn't the point. All that will come to light as facts keep getting discovered, but when one watches that video it's easy to understand why the anger took off like it did. You can feel the anger building throughout the crowd while the body lied there uncovered. That sure didn't help cool an already intense situation at all.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:28 am to Jim Rockford
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Maybe it's not a miracle and the police are generally acting more professionally than displayed by the media.
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Like this guy?
I just heard on MSNBC something about a guy in the crowd with a BB gun.
IF someone pointed - or even displayed - a BB gun at the police in a situation like this, he is lucky he didn't get shot immediately.
This is not a game - officers should not be required to wait until the 'other guy' shoots them to react.
The worst thing I saw in the video of the officer is the profanity when addressing the crowd, but hell, in an adrenaline evoking situation who knows what is 'appropriate.'
All you police haters out there are absolutely clueless - or disingenuous - about the reality of life. Go smoke your weed and mellow out. Look for unicorn shaped clouds.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 7:31 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:32 am to ChineseBandit58
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this whole ordeal is pathetic to the core. This further proves my point that Americans no longer stand for anything, because we fall for everything.
I wish this statement was false
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:36 am to SquirrelyBama
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You can feel the anger building throughout the crowd while the body lied there uncovered.
I agree - leaving the body and blood in full view for so long was upsetting - I didn't like it at all.
HOWEVER, many have made the point - don;t know if valid or not - that it is NOT the role of officers on the scene to interact with the body in order to not contaminate any DNA or other evidence. They say the police must wait on a certified group to cover the body.
You can imagine that if the body had been immediately covered and cordoned off from view there would be just as much distrust of what was going on 'behind the curtain.' I guarantee those shouting most loudly about the body being left out in the street would then be shouting just as loudly about 'planting evidence.'
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:44 am to lurker124
It's all in the eye of the beholder, but I think some of you are slightly exaggerating the media's take on this. They have reported the autopsy, they have reported the fact that there is evidence the officer suffered injuries and they have reported the robbery.
The main focus of the story has been the civil unrest and looting. Along with that, of course, they have allowed the protesters a voice on tv, but that goes along with reporting the story.
The main focus of the story has been the civil unrest and looting. Along with that, of course, they have allowed the protesters a voice on tv, but that goes along with reporting the story.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:51 am to lurker124
Hate to put it so bluntly, but it is indicative of an inner-city culture where nothing is the fault or responsibility of those that live in that culture, and everything should be provided (given) to them by the government. This culture has now taken root for 3-4 generations (at least) and it is reinforced daily by the media.
I don't know what it will take to break this cycle, but at some point something has to give or it will blow up.
I don't know what it will take to break this cycle, but at some point something has to give or it will blow up.
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