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re: TRUMP to back RAND Healthcare Bill
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:07 pm to BamaCoaster
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:07 pm to BamaCoaster
frick yea
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:07 pm to BamaCoaster
Hmmmm, Trump said he has the votes for graham-Cassidy this afternoon, has to wait for a senator due to health issues???
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:16 pm to Aristo
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Not since ACA and that's why our insurance went from 400 a mounth to 1600 a month with higher deductibles and less coverage.
Exactly what happened to us.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:44 pm to BamaCoaster
So not a bill at all, but an executive order...
We love governing by executive order, don’t we folks?
We love governing by executive order, don’t we folks?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:30 pm to BamaCoaster
Trump wants Rand Pauls one vote.
Trump will push for ANYTHING at this point.
He was for the first one, the 2nd one and the 3rd one and now this one.
No matter. SOMETHING. ANYTHING.
Trump will push for ANYTHING at this point.
He was for the first one, the 2nd one and the 3rd one and now this one.
No matter. SOMETHING. ANYTHING.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:31 pm to buckeye_vol
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The issue here is that with such a small sample, with states that are largely suggest geographically, demographically, and economically, it's hard to really draw any inferences from this.
Agreed.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:33 pm to bonhoeffer45
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For one it kinda goes against his states rights motto,
For someone apparently so educated on economics/insurance, you sure don't understand how the disdain for federalism and the love of the free market come together with this plan, do you?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:33 pm to BamaCoaster
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RAND
the guy who should have gotten the Rep ticket... i actually would have gotten up that day and went out and voted for him....
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:13 pm to Iowa Golfer
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They already do this. If we were talking about property casualty I'd be concerned. But health insurance in its present form is barley insurance. It's becoming prepaid medical.
All the federal government does it set a baseline of acceptability and guidelines for the individual market(the employer market has been federally regulated since 1974 with ERISA). Rand Paul, in his core proposal, only seeks to reduce it in that individual market space. As his plan by its nature is federalist. He just wants to reduce those baselines and remove a state's ability to regulate the insurance sold in their state. Leaving his reduced federal guidelines as the new baseline.
You can call it insurance, sickness funds, cost-sharing businesses, whatever you want really. The dynamics and issues are still applicable.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:53 am to asurob1
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4 times is a charm right guys.
Complains about shittiness of PT board. Adds to shittiness.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:55 am to BamaCoaster
Rand Paul has a MD so yeah I would go with his bill
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:57 am to BamaCoaster
Imagine that....Competition.
Finally the consumers get something to fight high insurance costs.
I hope this passes!
Finally the consumers get something to fight high insurance costs.
I hope this passes!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:05 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
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I hope this passes!
It's an executive order
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:17 am to BamaCoaster
McCuck, Cucklins, and Murcucksi will still block it 
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:33 am to cahoots
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It's an executive order
My bad for not reading the article.
I hope it isn't overturned in the SCOTUS then.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 am to BamaCoaster
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Not across state lines.
That why you have:
Blue Cross Blue Shield of LA
Blue Cross Blue Shield of MI
Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY
etc etc etc
Isn't the buying across state lines thing is due to state level obstacles, not federal? Insurance rates are regulated at a state level.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:57 am to Haughton99
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Isn't the buying across state lines thing is due to state level obstacles, not federal? Insurance rates are regulated at a state level.
That's correct. Until ACA, health insurance was a States issue.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:01 am to BamaCoaster
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authority for it already exists in the Employee Retirement Income Security Act
I actually posted yesterday that the EO could possibly be attached to ERISA, I'm shamelessly proud of myself right now.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:49 am to roadGator
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Cigna is filed in all 50 states for example.
Aren't they backing out of states? I planned on switching to them from BCBS of texas since Cigna is accepted by more Drs, and they backed out of Texas this summer.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:17 pm to BamaCoaster
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If you and your spouse buy insurance by yourselves and if your spouse gets sick, you will be punished by the insurance industry
Not after the ACA you won't. That's what community rating means. Does Senator Paul not know that, or is he just hoping that you guys don't?
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If these individuals can join large groups across state lines
States have different regulations regarding insurance. You can't join across state lines without changing each state's laws...and that won't happen.
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