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Trump/Navy planning largest expansion since cold war

Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:23 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:23 am
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With President-elect Donald Trump demanding more ships, the Navy is proposing the biggest shipbuilding boom since the end of the Cold War to meet threats from a resurgent Russia and saber-rattling China.


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The Navy's 355-ship proposal released last month is even larger than what the Republican Trump had promoted on the campaign trail, providing a potential boost to shipyards that have struggled because budget caps that have limited money funding for ships




tDonald, making the seas great again.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:27 am to
Is there anything Trump is going to cut??? Trillion dollar stimulus, massive navy expansion, tax cuts, a border wall.

When does the conservatism part come?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73827 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:28 am to
It takes money to make money baw

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:31 am to
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When does the conservatism part come?


Never. Trump is a populist liberal. He will spend spend spend. then he will come home and tell his husband that everything was on sale.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:31 am to
Conservatives only give a shite about the budget/deficit when the they arnt in power. Hypocrisy is rampant in our two party system.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:32 am to
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Is there anything Trump is going to cut??? Trillion dollar stimulus, massive navy expansion, tax cuts, a border wall. When does the conservatism part come?


Don't hold your breath. Trump is going to spend like a drunken liberal
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:32 am to
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Trillion dollar stimulus


He is just going to take Obama's stimulus that is still in the budget 8 years later, compounding annually at 5-6%, and reappropriate those funds to MAGA...
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:34 am to
If i had a dime for every time i heard "everything was on sale" Id still be broke....because everything is always on sale.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:34 am to
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It takes money to make money baw

Good for the economy (and buy defense stocks).
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32654 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:34 am to
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When does the conservatism part come?


lolwut?

Trump isn't a consaservative brotato
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:38 am to
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If i had a dime for every time i heard "everything was on sale" Id still be broke....because everything is always on sale.



Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:39 am to
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Is there anything Trump is going to cut??? Trillion dollar stimulus, massive navy expansion, tax cuts, a border wall. When does the conservatism part come?


dudes been a dem most his life

why expect something different
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:02 am to
Infrastructure please.
Less war, more engineering decent lives for all.

Military industrial complex IS THE SWAMP



Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:13 am to
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Trump planning largest expansion since cold war

Yep. Big spending liber...
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Navy's 355-ship proposal


Whoa whoa whoa. Mo' ships mo' opportunities for command. Build that shite!

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34951 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:27 am to
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Infrastructure please. Less war, more engineering decent lives for all. Military industrial complex IS THE SWAMP


Defense is every bit as important as Infrastructure, CD. Just like with the Billions spent on Research/Development/Intellectual Property...if one's competitors have the power to just STEAL it...then it's all for naught.

I thought about Trump's tax cuts for Corporations, and what it amounts to in the real economy is that Corporations will use the tax cut money to replace the losses for higher (local) labor costs...and the money will go into the pockets of the LOCAL laborers instead of the Government.

Bottom line. Money goes to local working people, FOR WORK...instead of the Government allocating out money for social programs on the basis of non-employment/need...instead of work.

As long as we keep that money in the US, and spend it on things with value like economically accountable, EFFICIENT, Defense, Infrastructure, Education (real version, moral/civic and economic) and honest Research/Development...I think the numbers will shake out.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:29 am to
I'm cool with expanding the Navy if done properly. Hopefully a lot more subs. We need to decrease the size of the other branches though.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58152 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:36 am to
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I'm cool with expanding the Navy if done properly


This is the problem. I used to work in the government ship building world and witnessed some damn shitty Navy and Coast Guard programs come through that was just mind blowing to witness the waste associated.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34951 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:37 am to
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I'm cool with expanding the Navy if done properly. Hopefully a lot more subs. We need to decrease the size of the other branches though.


Did you watch 60 Minutes last night, GT? Autonomous drones, ships, etc. are the winning future. Efficiency wins every battle.

Giving our Military Research and Development secrets needs to be once again established as a crime punishable by death. Death in short order at that. The new high tech will be potently lethal on grand scales in the wrong hands. It's coming. Regardless.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:41 am to
Is expanding the Navy really necessary? It's already the largest and most powerful in the world.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:54 am to
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It's already the largest and most powerful in the world.


I'm no naval strategist but so I don't know the correct number or makeup of ships needed. But I lean towards having a large standing Navy and a very small army. The army preferably being mostly a national guard function. The Navy is hands down our most important branch. They take a long time to build so it needs to be ready day one in the case of a large conflict. Armies can be raised much quicker if need be. The good part about having a small standing army is that we'd be less inclined to get bogged down in pointless adventures that don't serve our national interest. The Navy, with the Marine corps being part of that, can handle brush fires and contingencies that pop up from time to time.
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