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re: True or False: The Jews/Israelites were the first inhabitants of Palestine
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:41 pm to shutterspeed
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:41 pm to shutterspeed
The territory we today call Palestine or Israel?
Undeniably and 100% factually false
Undeniably and 100% factually false
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:41 pm to Antoninus
FFS, you are just as pretentious using an alter as when you post as Aggie Hank...
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:48 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Nothing confusing, just wrong.
What was so confusing about what I said?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:50 pm to Antoninus
quote:
Nothing confusing, just wrong.
It isn't wrong. You're wrong if you think that the concept of the modern nation state really existed before ~ the 15th century.
Ancient Israel most certainly wasn't one.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:14 pm to Antoninus
quote:The United Monarchy of Israel was established around 1020 BCE when Saul became the first king of a united Israelite kingdom.
Say what?
Does that help with your nonsense?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:23 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:You and I clearly use different definitions of “nation-state”
sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:26 pm to Antoninus
quote:
You and I clearly use different definitions of “nation-state”
Well, you provided a quote, but no cite, so maybe so.
I'll go with what most scholars of the topic tend to go with as opposed to the alter, Antoninus, though. So we'll have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:29 pm to Antoninus
quote:Your definition of “nation-state” is?
You and I clearly use different definitions of “nation-state”
The point of establishment of said “nation-state” is?
Here's a hint Dumbo, re: the OP, there was no nation specifically called "Palestine" in ancient times.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:29 pm to Antoninus
quote:
The Judeans and Israelites WERE Canaanites.
But not limited to Judeans and Israelites* (Lebanon). Many modern Arabs are as well. Any semetic people in the region can trace their lineage back to them.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:31 pm to Antoninus
quote:
You and I clearly use different definitions of “nation-state”
You have a well known history of pulling definitions out of your azz to try and provide cover when you say stupid things, Hank.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:52 pm to Old Money
quote:I think it is more accurate to say that the Canaanites and the Arabs both descend from a common Semitic predecessor culture, but they are definitely related.
The Judeans and Israelites WERE Canaanites. But not limited to Judeans and Israelites* (Lebanon). Many modern Arabs are as well. Any semetic people in the region can trace their lineage back to them.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Correct, Timothy.
re: the OP, there was no nation specifically called "Palestine" in ancient times.
The place name seems to derive from Philistia, though the modern Palestinian people are probably not descended from the Aegean Philistines.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:55 pm to Antoninus
quote:Facts not in evidence, counsellor.
I think
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Oxford dictionary.quote:Well, you provided a quote, but no cite, so maybe so.
You and I clearly use different definitions of “nation-state”
I would be interested to see your definition and source.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:
the Palestinians
No such people have ever existing.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:05 pm to Antoninus
quote:Of course, quartus. It's what I do.
Correct, Timothy.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:32 pm to CDawson
quote:
No such people have ever existing.
They exist now. Israelis didn’t exist before 1948.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:48 pm to Mo Jeaux
But Jewish people and our temples did! 
It's hilarious how people constantly bring up a name the Romans assigned to dirt and then ascribe it to a people. They're mostly Jordanian. No, you can't have the land back, because Israel won, and you got your teeth kicked in. Should we give the 13 colonies back to England?
Most biblical scholars date it to around 1250BC where the 12 Hebrew tribes divided themselves. But hey, Croatia didn't exist until the 1990s, so F 'em all, right?
It's hilarious how people constantly bring up a name the Romans assigned to dirt and then ascribe it to a people. They're mostly Jordanian. No, you can't have the land back, because Israel won, and you got your teeth kicked in. Should we give the 13 colonies back to England?
Most biblical scholars date it to around 1250BC where the 12 Hebrew tribes divided themselves. But hey, Croatia didn't exist until the 1990s, so F 'em all, right?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:49 pm to LemmyLives
What?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:51 pm to CDawson
quote:
No such people have ever existing.
The Israelis and the Palestinians are closely related in terms of genetics.
quote:
No such people
This is one of the most bizarre Israeli propaganda points.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:52 pm
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