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re: True or False: The Jews/Israelites were the first inhabitants of Palestine

Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Yes. it is recorded even by the Romans who occupied the Levantine Regions. What is modern day Israel/Palestine was a Jewish homeland.


No.

This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:03 pm to
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Some group 20,000+ years ago that we don't know the identity of
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:04 pm to
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The vast majority of Jews currently in Israel have been there less than a century. I always laugh at the American Zionists who claim Palestinians aren't a true people but somehow think folks who, prior to 1948, spent centuries in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or the Habsburg lands in Central Europe have some inherent right to lands in the Middle East.


It kind of is what it is though. I'm not saying it's a great situation but you could make a lot of parallel arguments to the Europeans settling in the Americas. And also the local Palestinian bourgeoisie kind of sold out the lower class natives by continuing to sell their land to European Jewish settlers.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:05 pm to
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I always laugh at the American Zionists who claim Palestinians aren't a true people but somehow think folks who, prior to 1948, spent centuries in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or the Habsburg lands in Central Europe have some inherent right to lands in the Middle East.


The Zionists BOUGHT THE LAND...it was worthless UNTIL after 1948 when the Israelis turned desert into farmland.
Posted by Antoninus
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:07 pm to
I think the point is that there is not one square inch of this planet for which it is possible to identify the “original” inhabitants.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:08 pm to
Who cares? All that matters is who’s the strongest, and Jews/Israelites are far stronger and together than the Muslim/Arabs are. Land has never been decided by who’s right it is to it. All that matters is who’s the most powerful group. The Jews lost the land at one time because the Muslims were a more powerful force at one point in time.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:09 pm to
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.it was worthless UNTIL after 1948 when the Israelis turned desert into farmland.



This is propaganda.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Land has never been decided by who’s right it is to it. All that matters is who’s the most powerful group. The Jews lost the land at one time because the Muslims were a more powerful force at one point in time.


And they got it back because Germany lost a war. Weird huh.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
to find the first inhabitants , read James Michner "the tell"
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
Palestine was what the Romans called the region after kicking out the bar majority of the Jews following the wars. From the moment the Romans dissolved the Jewish state until it was reformed in 1948 there never was another national polity in the region, and there is an unbroken history of Jewish habitation in the region. It's funny to me that nobody acknowledges that 80% if what was called Palestine is already contained in an Arab state, it's called Jordan, and that the Palestinians and the Jordanians are the same people.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:15 pm to
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And they got it back because Germany lost a war. Weird huh.


I mean, it’s not like it was Muslim land anyways. It was British territory. Muslims weren’t a force without the Ottoman Empire. Collapse of the Ottomans was the nail in the coffin for Muslim power.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:15 pm to
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Palestine was what the Romans called the region after kicking out the bar majority of the Jews following the wars.


It was called Palestine before that.

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From the moment the Romans dissolved the Jewish state until it was reformed in 1948 there never was another national polity in the region


Well, the concept of a nation state is a modern one. Ancient Israel certainly wasn't one.

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there is an unbroken history of Jewish habitation in the region.


Eh. So what?

Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:17 pm to
Does not matter at all. Israel has it now. There is no Palestine.

Hamas leadership needs a few thousand rockets sent into its homes.

We know where they live. Just waste those piles of crap.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:21 pm to
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the concept of a nation state is a modern one. Ancient Israel certainly wasn't one.
Say what?
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:22 pm to
If you start referring to them as Semites or Semitic tribes, you will come closer to finding the answer to your riddle.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:29 pm to
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Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123940 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Got a problem with Yahweh?
No. Not at all. Do you?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Say what?


What was so confusing about what I said?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:35 pm to
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There is no Palestine.


Of course there is.
Posted by TrumpedUpVol
Member since Sep 2020
584 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:36 pm to
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You can only keep that which u can hold……


Then let’s stop allowing the Jews to hold that territory with mass cash injections.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:08 pm
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