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re: Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:16 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:16 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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To numerous to list in one post
OK, start with one.
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I'll re ask , what was your MOS?
That isn't happening. That Air Force dude weirded me out.
I'll post a very small portion of my DD 214 later just so we can move on, but that's as far as this is going.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:22 am to TennesseeFan25
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There is no such thing as a transgender navy seal, end of story. There never has been, never will be.
I was a 2 year old once, I don't refer to myself as a toddler now though. Dude was a seal, then decided he wanted to have a vagina. Those 2 things are exclusive.
Do you know what the definition of transgender is?
The identification of transgender doesn't require that you actually have the parts of the gender you identify with. So you're wrong.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:28 am to Argonaut
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That isn't happening. That Air Force dude weirded me out.
I'll post a very small portion of my DD 214 later just so we can move on, but that's as far as this is going.
Absolutely no one who has served would have a problem telling someone what their MOS was but then offer to post any portion of their DD214 on an open forum.
Poseur.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:39 am to LSUcjb318
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Transgender Navy Seal calls out Trump
I'm active duty over 10 years so far and this constant social experiment with our military needs to stop.
How is allowing transgendered, people who are willing to mutilate themselves and obviously have mental issues, ok because it is socially acceptable. Yet someone with Asthma can't get in, but wants to serve.
Allowing a woman, that used to be a guy, to live, sleep and shower in the same berthing as other women not only makes it an uncomfortable living enviroment but affects morale.
We are here to do a job, often away from families, and these aren't destractions you need in theater.
Trump is right in his actions, but just often doesn't deliver it in a PC way.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:42 am to iheartchimichangas
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Trump is right in his actions, but just often doesn't deliver it in a PC way.
His biggest problem honestly is that he loves the media attention.
He could have simply ended the policy quietly and it wouldn't have been a huge national story like this.
Same with his travel ban. Was there really any reason to make such a big deal of it? Would Hawaii , for example, even have noticed if suddenly Syrians weren't allowed to come into the US? Doubtful
He's an attention whore, and lives by the adage that even bad attention is better than no attention.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:47 am to iheartchimichangas
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How is allowing transgendered, people who are willing to mutilate themselves and obviously have mental issues, ok because it is socially acceptable
Not all transgender people want to mutilate themselves.
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Yet someone with Asthma can't get in, but wants to serve.
I have to kick people with asthma out of the military nearly every week because they can't complete simple runs and hikes. It's a performance issue as well as a health issue.
Now there are folks with asthma that can meet the training standard. You know why? Because they never have trouble with their training. It's not a one-size-fits-all condition. There are degrees of severity.
Same with transgender. If they aren't disruptive to anything what's the problem? Many of them have served and retired without telling anyone they were transgender.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:55 am to Goldrush25
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Same with transgender. If they aren't disruptive to anything what's the problem? Many of them have served and retired without telling anyone they were transgender.
And much like the guy with asthma that never interferes with his duty, that person won't be separated from the military. Do you think the MPs are going to go door to door searching for Trannies? Of course not. How would they even do so? Maybe send out a mass email, "are you a tranny?"
It will be the same as it always was before 2015. Those caught openly being transvestites will be separated, those who aren't won't be.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:56 am to LSUcjb318
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Transgender Navy Seal
Optimal Trump Tweeter Response:
"Wow. You're a great American. This nation owes you a huge debt. Now shut the frick up and let me do my job!"
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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And much like the guy with asthma that never interferes with his duty, that person won't be separated from the military. Do you think the MPs are going to go door to door searching for Trannies? Of course not. How would they even do so? Maybe send out a mass email, "are you a tranny?"
It will be the same as it always was before 2015. Those caught openly being transvestites will be separated, those who aren't won't be.
Not a good comparison. No one will be separated for being openly asthmatic.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:00 am to Stingray
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Optimal Trump Tweeter Response:
"Wow. You're a great American. This nation owes you a huge debt. Now shut the frick up and let me do my job!"
Trump would be more likely to tweet out something like "I prefer heroes who don't mutilate themselves, right..........we love our military am I right?"
LOL
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:00 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Not saying I don't believe you, but can I get a link on this? Been debating this with a friend IRL.
As former CID I can tell all of you this. The UCMJ has always maintained that transgenders are to administravely seperated from the military. Obama didn't change, The POTUS can't change the UCMJ only CONGRESS can do that. Obama merely ordered that this portion of the UCMJ would not be enforced. Trump has merely said "it will not be enforced" If CONGRESS wants trannies in the military Congress can vote to change the UCMJ just as they did to allow gays to openly serve.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:11 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Not saying I don't believe you, but can I get a link on this? Been debating this with a friend IRL.
The relevant portion of the UCMJ has been posted several times in this . As for the President's ability to just change the UCMJJ to allow certain groups who were previously not permitted to stay in the military to now stay in. Ask yourself , and your friend , this. Why did Obama then go to Congress in 2010 and get the UCMJ changed so that gays could openly serve? Why didn't he just unilaterally change the UCMJ himself? Well, the answer is simple, because he couldn't.
See, Trump can't over ride that even if he wanted to, he can not reverse the decision to allow gays to openly serve because Congress changed the law.
Likewise, if the UCMJ allowed trannies to serve , Trump couldn't change that.
On the other hand , since the UCMJ actually says trannies can't serve all Obama did was essentially tell the military to ignore that portion of the law. And now Trump has said "no will now enforce that part of the law"
That's what makes comments from asshats like McCain so pathetic. Has he ever endorsed or introduced a bill to change the UCMJ to allow trannys to serve? Nope, and he never will because he doesn't want trannies in the military either, but this way he can fool the rubes into believeing that Trump changed the law, when Trump didn't do so, because he can't.
This is really common sense stuff that if not for a pure hatred for Trump from so many points could be shown to be the way it is. Some just don't want to accept it.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:38 am to LSUcjb318
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LINK
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Tell me to my face I’m not worthy of serving
I know you alphas in here love some SEALS, so I thought you would enjoy this.
Think about was this person has done for our nation compared to you.
The best part about your link is that the person front and center to the story is asking for someone else to say something to their face, yet the story does not even include a picture of the heshe.
Then again this is just another progressive loon wanting some sort of violent confrontation.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:47 am to Argonaut
This went 26 pages?
why?
why?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:34 am to LSUcjb318
This is like Rachel Dolezal becoming black as an adult and now wanting to claim reparations for slavery.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:04 pm to Argonaut
quote:El oh el oh el
I respect that he is a Colonel. I respect that he's served for however long he's served. I respect that he's earned something.
Other than mocking me by calling me "hero" multiple times and denigrating the fact I have a combat action badge (when did you earn yours by the way) and making light of the fact that I am a master parachutist, yeah, I absolutely feel respected.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:18 pm to Wolfhound45
Combat action badge? Master parachutist ? Pffft. You are talking to hardened veterans of multiple SJW campaigns.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:21 pm to Lsupimp
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multiple SJW campaigns
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:30 pm to iheartchimichangas
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I'm active duty over 10 years so far and this constant social experiment with our military needs to stop.
Did you have a problem with gay people openly serving in the military? I remember when people went nuts over that in 1993. Now I don't hear anything about it.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:39 pm to Wolfhound45
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El oh el oh el
Other than mocking me by calling me "hero" multiple times and denigrating the fact I have a combat action badge (when did you earn yours by the way) and making light of the fact that I am a master parachutist, yeah, I absolutely feel respected.
She's going to post portions of her DD 214 any moment now, but don't ask her what her MOS was, apparently you can track a single person down just by knowing their MOS .
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