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This is going to end with another one of you morons shooting off a rifle in a public place isn't it?

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This is going to end with another one of you morons shooting off a rifle in a public place isn't it?

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This is going to end with another one of you morons shooting off a rifle in a public place isn't it?

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Who is “pizzagate shooter” Edgar Maddison Welch?

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With an “uncredited extra” part in The Bleeding, (2009) Starring: Armand Assante, DMX, Michael Madsen and famous British footballer, Vinnie Jones, people have been wondering why The New York Times fails to mention it.

Who is Harry L. Welch, Jr?.

Edgar Maddison Welch’s father, Harry L. Welch Jr. also has an IMDb page. One of Harry Welch’s companies is a film production company called Forever Young Productions, Inc. so it’s not unusual to see he also has an IMDb page. However, the things listed on his IMDb page are so far afield of film making, and are so unusual, they seem to be spoofs, or put another way, “fake”. All of the items listed on the Harry L. Welch Jr. IMDb page, he confirms on his personal website:

Harry has been a NRA firearms instructor for over 35 years. He is rated as a Fire Arm Training Counselor, which enables him to train others trying to get their instructor's rating. Harry has taught hundreds of civilians, military, and law enforcement officers in the tactical use of firearms and CCW classes. He is recognized as an expert firearms witness by the North Carolina Supreme Court.
Elected President of the North Carolina Crime Stoppers Association (two terms). Served as Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, a national, non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children. Appointed by Governor Jim Martin to the Governor's Commission on Child Victimization.
In 1988, President Ronald Reagan selected Harry to join 15 other broadcasters to visit US Military Installation in Colorado. They received national clearance from the US Defense Department to visit the Cheyenne Mountain Nuclear Bunker the alternate command center for NORAD.

Harry worked on federal, state and local task forces fighting the war on drugs. He served five years with the Rowan County ABC police. Duties included: stakeouts, watching illegal stills, patrolling the county for suspected bootleggers transporting non-tax paid whiskey, working undercover to purchase illegal liquor and participating in raids on stills and gambling houses. Their agency also worked with the U.S. Treasury Department's local office of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms which increased their coverage area to eight counties.
Harry is a special deputy with the Iredell County Sheriff's Department.
Curiously, this Washington Post article written extensively about Edgar Maddison Welch’s parents and home-life, also never mentions that Harry Welch Jr. works in law enforcement, has done under-cover operations, was a broadcaster hand-picked by Reagan, is an expert in fire arms, has national security clearance from the Department of Defense, or that he:

Served as Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, a national, non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children.
This seems like an obvious connection to the story about his son rescuing children- yet it is never mentioned.

What is Forever Young Productions, Inc.?

Edgar Madison Welch, his father Harry L. Welch Jr. and his mom Terri, all work for their family-owned film production company called, Forever Young Productions, Inc.

They make films with and about children. The public Facebook page of their film “Mermaid Treasure”, shows Edgar acting and assisting in the production, tagged in these behind the scenes production photos-which are the same photos on the website of Forever Young Productions.com.

Public pages on Facebook are in the Public Domain.

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Why is this significant?

If the New York Times had reported the story of a troubled actor from a family of child-rescuers, whose father was the president of an anti child abuse organization, there would be no issue. If they had reported it as the story of a troubled actor whose father works in law enforcement and who also owns and operates a film production company which makes films about children, there still might be no issue.

It’s impossible to prove from that Edgar Madison Welch was just an actor, paid to play the “pizzagate shooter role” in a piece of “news-theater”. Because of this uncovered information, it is also impossible to disprove.

What is real news and what is “fake news”?

Formally, the term “fake news” in popular language, as a descriptor- was not in use until recently. Researchers, suspicious of mainstream media by this time, wondered if the term “fake news” was manufactured and pumped out into “bogus” articles specifically in response to pizzagate- in order to “popularly discredit” the allegations without an investigation. Google Trends appears to corroborate this notion and show a bump in “fake news” just ahead of “pizzagate” at the onset.

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Researchers started to notice and track multiple waves of bots posting online in social media forums and added them to their “executive summaries” involving pizzagate itself:

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A conspiratorial tale of murder, with Fox News at the center

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The Rich story has taken on elements of the Comet Ping Pong conspiracy, a false and preposterous tale involving Hillary Clinton and her supposed operation of a child-abuse ring at a District pizza restaurant.

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How A Fox Affiliate And Contributor Fueled Fringe Conspiracy Theories About Murdered DNC Staffer

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Some conspiracy theorists, including InfoWars' Paul Joseph Watson, even spread claims that The Washington Post’s report about President Donald Trump sharing highly classified information with Russian officials was printed to drown out the “bombshell news” story reported by the Fox affiliate. Fox News hosts Bret Baier and Sean Hannity retweeted this false claim. But Washington Post political reporter Dave Weigel set the record straight, noting that the Washington Post story went up before the Fox 5 story was published.

This isn’t the first local news station to lend legitimacy to a fringe conspiracy theory that resembled fake news. In January, a CBS Atlanta affiliate ran a segment promoting the debunked “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory that a Washington pizza parlor was the headquarters of a child sex-trafficking ring involving the Clinton family.

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One America News Network (OANN) has been running a prominent story about Seth Rich and his connection to the DNC leaks to Wikileaks, which highlights many of the most-concerning aspects of his murder. The video is not yet posted online, but they are running it frequently. The link will be added to the top of this post once it becomes available. In the news story, OANN indicated it is offering a $100,000 reward for any information that leads to the arrest of a suspect in his case! This is in addition to rewards offered by Wikileaks and other parties, which together make the total reward to $250,000, the highest reward ever for a DC murder (https://wjla.com/news/local/gop-lobbyist-adds-5k-to-reward-for-info-on-murder-of-former-dnc-staffer-seth-rich)))). It is notable that the DNC has offered NO REWARD for getting to the truth of who murdered this staffer.

The Seth Rich story is huge and connected to pizzagate as follows. It connects corrupt DNC, Hillary, Podesta...destroys the Russian-collusion lie that the LSM (Lying Sycophant Media) has been pushing...and in doing this, destroys all remaining credibility in the LSM and in trusting the police/FBI. If it is led by the FBI and brings out the truth, it can begin to expose the cabal while reestablishing some trust in the FBI, but I am worried that there are still too many corrupt insiders protecting the truth. The cover up is too obvious:

Seth Rich was shot in a very safe neighborhood at 4 am. Why has this barely been any news when there should be a search for the perpetrators given that it threatens an affluent neighborhood?

They claim that it was a botched robbery...on what evidence? He still had on him his wallet, an expensive watch, his cellphone, and his keys. Who made this claim as I did not see it in the official police report (https://www.scribd.com/document/320691960/Event-16113797-Public-Incident-Packet-1))))? Why have the police not put out any information on this?

Seth Rich was found to have bruising on his hands and face, which would indicate the possibility of a fight. Regardless, why was no DNA taken from him and the scene to try to tie to the perpetrators?

Seth Rich was scheduled to soon testify about DNC electoral fraud and the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

There seem to be insiders (police/hospital) who are starting to leak things out...that he was the source for 44K+ emails to Wikileaks (which I already knew...Assange almost came out and said this through his statements and reward offer)...that he was alive and should have survived the surgery (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1867122)))). There has been corroborative support by others involved from the hospital.

Why is the person "representing" the family claiming that the DNC link is a wild conspiracy? What evidence does he have to debunk it? It is the most credible motive, and he is actively trying to stop and suppress this. It turns out that this guy is a PR mouthpiece who apparently was hired by the Dems, with deep connections to them (to protect).

No one has pursued what Podesta meant when he wrote https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082: "I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker." No one has ever asked what he meant by this...but Seth Rich was murdered after this. The leaks spanned from January 2015 through late May 2016, so the timing of the leaks is in synch with Podesta's email threat (https://heavy.com/news/2017/05/seth-rich-evidence-wikileaks-police-report-document-dnc-staffer-homicide-conspiracy-theory/)))). It reminds me of what happened to Breitbart after his famous tweet about Podesta): https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/28/andrew-breitbart-tweet-before-death-adds-fuel-to-o/

What happened to Seth Rich's laptop, which was taken after the murder and likely includes incredibly valuable evidence supporting the fact that he was in communication with Wikileaks? The FBI is reported to have conducted a forensic examination, with an insider saying that he saw the emails leaked to Wikileaks first-hand...yet now the FBI apparently denies its involvement. How could this evidence have simply disappeared?

What about the suspicious death of Shawn Lucas, investigating DNC voter fraud, soon after he served the DNC with papers about a lawsuit (https://heavy.com/news/2017/05/seth-rich-evidence-wikileaks-police-report-document-dnc-staffer-homicide-conspiracy-theory/))))? The LSM just ignores all of these connections.

Where is all of the body cam footage from the three responding officers to the Seth Rich GSW scene? The investigator (Wheeler) claims that a DC Police insider informed him that the DC Police were told to "stand down and back off" regarding the Rich case.

Why did the DNC REFUSE to turn over the "hacked" server to the FBI? Why did the FBI not INSIST that the DNC hand it over for national security interests (plus the possible connection to Seth Rich's murder once these details started to come out in the days after his death)? The FBI could have subpoenaed the server. Instead, the FBI relied on a self-serving report by Crowdstrike - a firm with deep connections to Hillary, run by someone who hates Putin, and paid for by the DNC - to implicate the Russians. Much came out later debunking their report (https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/20/fix-is-in-comey-praised-dnc-hired-cybersecurity-firm-even-after-botched-report/)), and there has never been a deep investigation into the server or this Russia claim, which has been the heart of the "election-rigging" lie propagated by the LSM.

It is possible that part of what Seth Rich wanted to expose was the pedocracy, but I am uncertain of this. Regardless, discovering the truth that his murder was retaliation for the leaks to Wikileaks will blow the top off the Russian lie, which should really open up the eyes of many sheeple...and maybe some real investigative reporters will begin to dig into why they wanted so badly to take Trump down with this fabricated lie. Answer: Pedogate!

If the truth comes out about Seth Rich, this could be the thing that explodes it open, but it requires the top leadership of the FBI to want to investigate and get to this truth.

Update: Still awaiting the OANN video, but this one ran on Fox News on Wednesday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXn6FzWBS4oYouTube

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Does the New York Times hold too much clout in the news industry?

Not a troll question. I promise. In fact, I prefer that centrists and progressives answer.

I only ask because they seem to dictate so much of the news we talk about.
Kim Holleman

Kim Holleman, Artist, Research Affiliate at MIT Media Lab (2013-present)
Updated 49m ago

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Kim Holleman (born July 23, 1973 in Tampa, Florida) is a mid-career contemporary artist working with the Social Computing Group at MIT Media Lab. She is known for her interdisciplinary approach which includes: Sculpture, Utopian Architecture, Public Art, Architectural and Landscape Model making, Installation, Photography, Drawing and Collage. She attended The Cooper Union in New York City and Gerrit Rietveld Academie in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. She also spent time at Bet Za'lel Academy of Art in Jerusalem, Israel as an undergraduate exchange student. Holleman has been located in Bushwick, Brooklyn since 2000, making her an early pioneer in the Bushwick Artist's wave. Holleman continues to mount exhibitions and public art projects in New York.

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Why have him killed if he was leaking information? Why not just have him arrested? He would be the perfect scapegoat. But they killed him to "teach him a lesson" I've been told on here.

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Law enforcement officials have said that Rich’s computer and email activity have been examined and suggest nothing that would connect him to WikiLeaks — which, 12 days after Rich’s death, published 20,000 emails that embarrassed former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and the DNC, and forced the ouster of its chairwoman.

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Clearly it isn't because they haven't found the perpetrator.

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