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re: There was a FISA warrant...
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:12 am to montanagator
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:12 am to montanagator
quote:
Intercepted conversations were to a person already being tapped (Russian Officials), the FISA warrant was for a server not a wire tap of Trump tower phones
Are you suggesting there was a FISA warrant? Also, you realize the warrant typically include US citizens associated with the original target of the administration?
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:13 am to The Spleen
Then why the executive order days before leaving office concerning the succession of the AG?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:15 am to Errerrerrwere
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Then why the executive order days before leaving office concerning the succession of the AG?
I'm not familiar with this, so no idea.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:16 am to NYNolaguy1
If they have evidence that led to a warrant being issued - more power to them.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:17 am to montanagator
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to the point of justifying a FISA warrant
Oh, you think they're impartial.
Ever heard of the term rubber stamp?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:18 am to PDXDawg
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If they have evidence that led to a warrant being issued - more power to them
That's a lot of faith to put in the rubber stamp, Big Brother.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:20 am to PDXDawg
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If they have evidence that led to a warrant being issued - more power to them.
And yet now we know
1) No criminality from Russian bank wiretaps
2) No collusion from ANY AMERICAN with Russian authorities
But I thought FISA required a "substantial likelihood" of wrongdoing? More like a fishing expedition, if you ask me
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:21 am to NC_Tigah
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?
Do you understand the difference between a surveillance order that targets the top Russian diplomat in America and surveillance order that targets an American citizen? They are two different things and the existence of one does not impute the existence of the other. There can be a valid FISA order targeting the Russian and not one targeting the American but if that American contacts the Russian his comms can be taken, subject to any relevant minimization procedures.
This is not a hard concept to understand.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:23 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
That's a lot of faith to put in the rubber stamp, Big Brother.
As opposed to placing your faith in a DJT tweet?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:26 am to NYNolaguy1
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See here's the problem. Either the Democrats admit they wiretapped Trump and his team with a FISA warrant during a presidential campaign, or they illegally did it without one.
or this board is reminded that wiretapping foreign officials on US soil is commonplace
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:27 am to PDXDawg
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opposed to placing your faith in a DJT tweet?
Quote me where I referenced a tweet.
In fact, I referenced an article from almost 4 months BEFORE the tweet. That's aside from multiple NYT articles, HRC referring to it during the campaign, Podesta referring to it after the campaign...
You think it's about a tweet.
Like I said, I appreciate the faith you have in our glorious state, Big Brother.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:32 am to jeff5891
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this board is reminded that wiretapping foreign officials on US soil is commonplace
During a presidential transition?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:32 am to NYNolaguy1
Glad you appreciate it?
I don't have blind faith in anything.....but I do hold FISA in higher esteem than DJT or links from New York New Orleans Guy #1.
I don't have blind faith in anything.....but I do hold FISA in higher esteem than DJT or links from New York New Orleans Guy #1.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:35 am to jeff5891
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wiretapping foreign officials on US soil is commonplace
Yeah I can't believe we're having to have this conversation.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:38 am to PDXDawg
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but I do hold FISA in higher esteem than
I get it.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:57 pm to NYNolaguy1
Mensch
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:14 pm to Decatur
quote:There is no difference in this case.
Do you understand the difference between a surveillance order that targets the top Russian diplomat in America and surveillance order that targets an American citizen?
None!
"Not a smidgen."
The "top Russian diplomat in America" met with Barack Obama TWENTY-TWO (22) TIMES !
Were those conversations surveilled?
The "top Russian diplomat in America" met with Hillary Clinton many many times.
Were those conversations surveilled?
The man had a generic conversation with Gen.Flynn.
That conversation WAS surveilled.
The incidental US citizen component was then leaked to the press.
Obviously in aftermath of the election, foreign emissaries would be introducing themselves to Trump delegates and vis versa. Those conversations would certainly include the Russian Ambassador. Tapping individuals who would obviously be meeting the incoming transition team, equates to de facto surveilling the transition team. PERIOD!
Incidental collections, including those of team Trump, should have been discarded, and CERTAINLY NEVER RELEASED!
Release of that info was a felony!
Got it?
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