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There was a FISA warrant...

Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:50 am
This might be Germans but it seems like some on here keep denying it...

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Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.




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Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.


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Louise Mensch10:18 pm, November 7, 2016


Heat Street
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:51 am to
It's in the thread at the top of the page...
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:51 am to
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confirmed to Heat Street


I found the problem.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

in the thread at the top of the page...



Fair enough
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:52 am to
Sources.........

Good enough for me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20898 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:52 am to
quote:

found the problem.


I copied the link from DU...

Are you suggesting they lie?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:54 am to
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I copied the link from DU... Are you suggesting they lie?


I don't read DU and don't concern myself with anything about them.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:55 am to
You're struggling with this aren't you?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:56 am to
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Louise Mensch


She also claims that Vladimir Putin had Andrew Breitbart murdered so...
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20898 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

She also claims that Vladimir Putin had Andrew Breitbart murdered so...


When you can't attack the information attack the source. Good form.

Are you denying there was a FISA warrant?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 10:59 am to
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Are you denying there was a FISA warrant?


Everyone in a position to know has denied it.

Trump obviously did not bother to consult with anyone before tweeting. Shocker.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58824 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:00 am to
quote:

You're struggling with this aren't you?


The cognitive dissonance exhibited by the Progs in respect of this matter is very entertaining.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:02 am to
No, they haven't. Stop lying.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:03 am to
Who in a position to know has confirmed the existence of a FISA warrant targeting Trump or Trump Tower?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20898 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:03 am to
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Everyone in a position to know has denied it.

Trump obviously did not bother to consult with anyone before tweeting. Shocker.


Bookmarked.

I love how in one breath the left claims that Trump was caught on wiretaps with a Russian connection, then the next claiming there was no wiretapping.

Also, are you suggesting the DNI is now divulging classified information from the existence (or lack thereof) of a secret warrant?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:04 am to
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I found the problem.
Did you?

How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20898 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:07 am to
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?


See here's the problem. Either the Democrats admit they wiretapped Trump and his team with a FISA warrant during a presidential campaign, or they illegally did it without one.

How can they claim they have intercepted conversations that never took place?

Big brother listening to a presidential campaign won't sit well with the American public.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:09 am to
Rexcatur the indy is working hard.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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How can they claim they have intercepted conversations that never took place?



Intercepted conversations were to a person already being tapped (Russian Officials), the FISA warrant was for a server not a wire tap of Trump tower phones.

How do Trumpkins explain the Trump Campaign being in close contact with the Russians to the point of justifying a FISA warrant for said server by Judges appointed by a Republican Supreme Court Justice?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?



From what I've read, and again it's been sourced through anonymous sources, is that Kislyak is suspected of being s spy recruit for Russia. Thus, his communications are routinely intercepted by IC officials. If true, it's possible they were recorded through that manner.

As I understand the FISA warrant only applied to a server in Trump Tower, and related to transactions between it and a known Russian server. It would NOT have allowed anyone to monitor phone calls within Trump Tower, unless there was a separate FISA that has not been leaked.

I'm dubious of a lot of this stuff, but that's at least my understanding of the key issues.
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