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The Wall - One of the dumbest things ever

Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:58 am
I mean Pink Floyd did a pretty good job with their wall. And yeah we need to keep Islamic Terrorist out... but spending lots of money on this thing is all wrong.

The problem is not making a big enough wall, or tall enough, or by going long enough. This is like going after the wagging tail of a rabid dawg or chasing hens around the barnyard.

Maybe it's just me - but much better to chase the money trail, it's much better to go after their employers. The money doesn't need to be only us spending US dollars. Better to mega-fine the guys hiring workers without visas. Fine the American Guy 50 grand (ok 100) for each violation and double-it for every subsequent occurrence... and keep on until it really hurts... You'll soon get his attention. Fifty, a hundred, two hundred thousand and the economics of the situation will begin to take effect. They come here for the money; same as most vote in elections (*the bottom line) and why we get going everyday. And without finding jobs they'll have far fewer reasons to be here.

With 8 million illegals in the work force it could garner big bucks that could help tackle/enforce/be-put-toward (solving) the problem... instead of throwing an untold-gazillion dollars into yet another wall. A wall won't deter a terrorist with enough time, effort, and militia type backing and it hasn't stopped South Americans.

De-funding an illegal immigrant's reason to be here might just slow the flow of so many. And by fining the offenders it could make the task less economically demanding on the rest of us. The bad guys are not just the one's collecting the dough.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59567 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 9:59 am to
I say let the illegals sign up to build it, and have a lottery for some of them to get green cards.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41066 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:01 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:01 am to
Building a wall alone is ineffective. We need your idea but also an increased presence on the border.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:03 am to
It will do nothing to stop illegal aliens from coming across.



That's why Mexico's president isn't opposed to it. At all. Doesn't even care.









ETA: check the batteries in yalls sarcasm meter at least every 6 months.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:04 am to
I agree. A wall is better than the status quo, but it is an expensive repair of a symptom that does not cure the disease. We need to fix why they come here rather than simply making it more difficult.

Simply put, stop paying them, and they'll leave.

Stop giving them free healthcare, phones, education, housing, drivers licenses, etc; stop emplying them; stop paying them to have children; and start prosecuting them for using stolen social security numbers and they'll leave on their own economic initiative.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:05 am to
It's a simple minded, short sighted solution to a complex problem.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5702 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:06 am to
quote:

It will do nothing to stop illegal aliens from coming across.


Bold absolute statement. Physical barriers have never prevented anyone from ever crossing them.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:06 am to
quote:

The Wall - One of the dumbest things ever


And yet, this was one of the key campaign promises made by the man elected US President. That must sting a little bit.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57835 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:07 am to
Obama likes the idea of a wall around his new place!
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:07 am to
Trump wants a great wall. China has a great wall. How many Mexicans does China have?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

The Wall - One of the dumbest things ever


Says every prisoner sitting in prison right now.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:09 am to
Have you ever been to a border town like Nogales?

If you haven't, I suggest you do some research and report back. People are literally pouring over the border. Some of them are drug traffickers. Many have criminal histories. Human trafficking is flourishing as well. It is destroying our cities in the SW.

What is so hard about this?
Posted by HeadLightBanDit
Hernando, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1408 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:12 am to
Well when you look historically at walls throughout recorded history they've ALL been failures.

Walls of Jericho FAIL
Great Wall of China FAIL
Maginot Line FAIL
Atlantic Wall FAIL
Berlin Wall FAIL
Etc
Etc
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59567 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Simply put, stop paying them, and they'll leave.

Stop giving them free healthcare, phones, education, housing, drivers licenses, etc; stop emplying them; stop paying them to have children; and start prosecuting them for using stolen social security numbers and they'll leave on their own economic initiative.


This is really the crux of the matter. It's not just about the wall. You have to take the carrot away. Then hit them with the stick till they run to the other side of the fence.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:16 am to
All of those walls fell to unified invading forces. You progressives are super triggered today. Ill sit back and enjoy it
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:16 am to
I think in 20 years, this wall will be a punchline and no one will admit to having been in support of its construction.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Aubie Spr96


Build it and they won't come. Just another way to look at it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Bold absolute statement. Physical barriers have never prevented anyone from ever crossing them.


bullshite.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45195 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:19 am to
Yes, let's ask Romania how ineffective their new wall is...

Also, it's not our money, it's Mexico's, so who cares?
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