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re: The Wall - One of the dumbest things ever
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:01 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:01 am to joshnorris14
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How is it weird? He agreed to not publicly talk about Mexico paying for it.
This will NEVER happen, and the fact so many people believe it may is terrifying. Sense just isn't common anymore.
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:04 am to InTheDetails
I don't care if they pay for it or not.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:09 am to LSU Patrick
Look.
I agree with you on illegal immigration being a problem.
But spending huge amounts of money to build a wall is not a historically sound solution. I'm sorry, but you cannot change history. Walls fall. It's what they do throughout recorded time.
I guess on the bright side we will have a crumbling tourist attraction in a couple of hundred years to try to recoup some of that money.
Great Wall Of America doesn't have a ring to it though. Marketing will have to work on it.
I agree with you on illegal immigration being a problem.
But spending huge amounts of money to build a wall is not a historically sound solution. I'm sorry, but you cannot change history. Walls fall. It's what they do throughout recorded time.
I guess on the bright side we will have a crumbling tourist attraction in a couple of hundred years to try to recoup some of that money.
Great Wall Of America doesn't have a ring to it though. Marketing will have to work on it.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:22 am to The Spleen
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It's a simple minded, short sighted solution to a complex problem.
Guess you misread... might just slow the flow of so many
And it could make the task less economically demanding on the rest of us.
Never claimed to have the answer - just advocating another part - and a better fix than a wall for the dollars.
And yes I've been to a border town (someone else asked).
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:39 am to The_Duke
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But campaigned screaming that they WOULD pay for it
Right, and Trump agreed to not scream about it anymore.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:39 am to InTheDetails
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This will NEVER happen, and the fact so many people believe it may is terrifying. Sense just isn't common anymore.
Mexico is paying for the Wall. Accept it
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:45 am to joshnorris14
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Mexico is paying for the Wall. Accept it
Do you actually believe this or are you just picking up Seldom Seen's slack?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:48 am to rbWarEagle
It's as easy to believe as it is to breathe in air. It's as simple as recognizing and accepting reality
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:48 am to awestruck
I'm for it because I think it will look cool.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:05 pm to awestruck
Building a continuous wall across the entire border is impractical, but in certain places walls are highly effective. I lived in El Paso in the late 80s, you could just walk across a ditch and hop a single chain link fence and be over. Since then they erected formidable physical barriers and illegal crossings there plummeted from over 5000 a year to 200. We need walls in places, we need more border staff, we need drones, we need to make it a felony to knowingly employ illegals, and we need to actually validate I'd and social security info when people apply to rent houses, open bank accounts, etc. In Canada you can't take a dump without a valid tax ID number and they have no problem with illegal immigration. It makes it pretty much impossible for an illegal to live there for any length of time
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:14 pm to joshnorris14
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's as easy to believe as it is to breathe in air. It's as simple as recognizing and accepting reality
A border adjustment tax would pay for it almost immediately.
A tax on remittances in a year.
These people are loons.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:26 pm to awestruck
I agree. penalize companies who hire them. I would go Draconian.
1 year in federal penitentiary first offense. that's the hiring manager, the HR director, the CFO and the CEO and the chairman of the board.
5 years 2nd time.
Firing squad for 3rd time. On TV at half time of the Super bowl each year.
1 year in federal penitentiary first offense. that's the hiring manager, the HR director, the CFO and the CEO and the chairman of the board.
5 years 2nd time.
Firing squad for 3rd time. On TV at half time of the Super bowl each year.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:27 pm to HubbaBubba
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An RFI (previously discussed) went out from the Department of Homeland Security as a precursor to an RFQ to come out in the fall. It's for 200 surveillance towers to be be built and deployed along the border, with new technologies that allow the towers to "see" in night or day, rain or shine, 24/7 any illegal crossings and to quickly alert the US Border Patrol.
Yeah, they already have these in place but more couldn't hurt.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:37 pm to joshnorris14
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Mexico is paying for the Wall. Accept it
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:54 pm to awestruck
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Maybe it's just me - but much better to chase the money trail, it's much better to go after their employers.
You seem to be confused. Neither the wall nor punishing employers taking advantage of illegal immigrant labor are mutually exclusive. Nor should they be.
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