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re: The Republican Party does not exist. Here's why:
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:36 am to troyt37
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:36 am to troyt37
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Oh, they exist snowflake. And they are kicking the socialist democrat's arse.
No, you listed the indicia of the existence of a Facade. You didn't address my arguments.
I agree that the GOP has a full Facade on display. It has a structure. It has people in the structure. My argument is that it does not exist for the purposes that I listed.
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:37 am to Breesus
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The democratic party doesn't exist either. There is only one party. The DC Establishment party. Once elected to DC you are indoctrinated. Wake up.
So you agree with me?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:39 am to roadGator
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A true conservative can't win. Can you imagine someone winning by telling the American people that we are going to have to cut programs and raise taxes at the same time if we don't want to be completely in debt for the rest of eternity?
I agree.
BUT it is not responsive to my argument, unless you are saying that the GOP is a phantom in which case I agree.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:40 am to Champagne
The Repukes certainly exist; they simply do not exist as the entity they pretend to be or in the way the op infers they would exist if they actually existed.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:41 am to BlackPawnMartyr
I like all of those ideas but your post isn't responsive to my conclusion and my support for my conclusion.
I appreciate all of the responses. I'll have to take a break and come back later to try to learn WHY I am wrong about this, if indeed I am wrong. I think I'm right.
I appreciate all of the responses. I'll have to take a break and come back later to try to learn WHY I am wrong about this, if indeed I am wrong. I think I'm right.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:42 am to troyt37
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Oh, they exist snowflake. And they are kicking the socialist democrat's arse.
No. They really aren't.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:44 am to airfernando
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The Repukes certainly exist; they simply do not exist as the entity they pretend to be or in the way the op infers they would exist if they actually existed.
Yes I agree that the Facade of existence is there. But I agree with you that the Republican Party does not exist in the manner that I describe in my OP. That's why I conclude that it exists as a Facade, a Phantom and an Illusion.
I hope it can change in that regard because this current incarnation is not sustainable.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:48 am to Wtodd
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Sure it does.....a conservative party doesn't exist
Great answer. The conservative Republican Party is nowhere close to what is was 50 years ago. The Dems have accomplished in their goal of pulling us left over those fifty years. Most of today's republicans are yesteryear's libertarians, at least in the way I see both.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:50 am to Champagne
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You are a clueless moron who reduces a complex world down to easy-to-understand tropes so you feel like you have some grasp of it?
That is conclusory. Please support your conclusion with some substantive arguments.
Well played sir!
Since it had a question mark, technically my post was a question.
If I have time later I will post a more substantive response. It will be along the lines of "just because you haven't gotten major reform done in the first year, doesn't mean most Republican members of Congress don't want reform. It's complicated. Also there ARE a few very moderate republicans and the vote margins are so close in the Senate to give them incredible leverage. Those few should not be used to castigate the entire party.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:50 am to Champagne
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It has no urge to advance any agenda, other than those agenda items supported by the Democratic Party
quote:The GOP’s unprecedented anti-Obama obstructionism was a remarkable success. And then it handed the party to Donald Trump.
Counter-arguments?
quote:O nevermind. This all makes sense now.
such as freezing Trump's agenda and beating Trump in 2020.
100% support for Trump = Trump Supporters Group
0% to 99% = Anti-Trump Group
Where have I seen this before? O that's right from the leftist. It's like Climate Change. The consensus they always tout is based on a belief that the earth is warming and humans had some impact on that. But if you're the least bit skeptical of the extent of the warming, predictions, or human impact, you're a climate denier. So either 100% all in or you're not in at all.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:53 am to Champagne
Win?
Defeat Dems?
When will this sports team crap stop? This is the real problem with America. We don’t want good polices in place to advance our nation, we only care about getting stuff pushed through that the other side doesn’t want in order for us to label ourselves a winner.
Defeat Dems?
When will this sports team crap stop? This is the real problem with America. We don’t want good polices in place to advance our nation, we only care about getting stuff pushed through that the other side doesn’t want in order for us to label ourselves a winner.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:57 am to The_Duke
What the heck do you think #resist is all about?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:04 pm to roadGator
I never said this was a one party issue. Both parties are guilty and need to grow up.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:05 pm to The_Duke
Needs versus wants.
Like children, they won't do what they need to do. They will do what they want to do.
Like children, they won't do what they need to do. They will do what they want to do.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:11 pm to Champagne
Because an actual political party has a desire and a plan to WIN in order to advance a substantive Agenda. The Republican Party has none of these things. It has neither a plan nor a desire to defeat the Democratic Party. It has no desire to craft and implement a plan to win. It has no urge to advance any agenda, other than those agenda items supported by the Democratic Party, such as freezing Trump's agenda and beating Trump in 2020.
All evidence (which I previously posted) points to the contrary. If they had neither a plan or desire to win in order to advance a substantive agenda, they wouldn't be doing it so well, would they? Your inability to recognize or understand that plan or that agenda has no bearing on whether it exists.
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No, you listed the indicia of the existence of a Facade. You didn't address my arguments.
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Because an actual political party has a desire and a plan to WIN in order to advance a substantive Agenda.
All evidence (which I previously posted) points to the contrary. If they had neither a plan or desire to win in order to advance a substantive agenda, they wouldn't be doing it so well, would they? Your inability to recognize or understand that plan or that agenda has no bearing on whether it exists.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:17 pm to BigJim
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If I have time later I will post a more substantive response. It will be along the lines of "just because you haven't gotten major reform done in the first year, doesn't mean most Republican members of Congress don't want reform. It's complicated. Also there ARE a few very moderate republicans and the vote margins are so close in the Senate to give them incredible leverage. Those few should not be used to castigate the entire party.
I do appreciate your points and I am sure that I agree with you, so, you needn't worry about posting a more comprehensive response.
I simply wanted to focus on my proposition/argument in this thread. I recognize that other points are worthy of discussion and I'd like to hear that discussion sometime.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:18 pm to buckeye_vol
Excuse me, sir, but, do you have a responsive message to post?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:20 pm to Champagne
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That's why I argue that the Republican Party does not exist.
As a Republican I hate to admit it but I agree. I do think we have the right man to get this country back on its feet and safe and energy independent.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:21 pm to troyt37
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All evidence (which I previously posted) points to the contrary. If they had neither a plan or desire to win in order to advance a substantive agenda, they wouldn't be doing it so well, would they? Your inability to recognize or understand that plan or that agenda has no bearing on whether it exists.
I'm sorry, sir, but, if you hope to refute my argument, I'm afraid that you are going to have to spell it out for us instead of saying "It's all there! I can't help it if you're too stupid to see it!"
That IS a pretty good dodge, though, so I'll give you that.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:22 pm to old man tiger
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As a Republican I hate to admit it but I agree.
Spoken like a Gentleman, Sir. A toast to your good health.
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