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re: The next step: demand reparations for all descendants of slaves.....

Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
Just a reminder from someone who actually read the reparations bill written by Ogletree for Conyers. Zero money will go to black individuals. All of the money will go to black organizations. NAACP, Nat Urban League, etc. There are 1,000s of black organizations in the US that will have their hand out.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:48 pm to
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The next step: demand reparations for all descendants of slaves.....
Not on board. Now reparations for Jim Crow? That's another story.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:51 pm to
Pay them and then expel them from the Country never to return.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:04 pm to
The funny thing about reparations is you just have to go back one step in the process of slavery and you arrive at the black Africans who enslaved and sold nearly 100% of the Africans sent over hear. The European slavers where middle men. The practice of selling other Africans into slavery was universal among West African tribes. Pretty much all current African Americans are descendent from these same tribes, so if they want to get reparations from the ancestors of those who originally profited from depriving their own ancestors of freedom, they need look no farther than their neighbor. Pretty much every black person in the us has a slaver for an ancestor
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:10 pm to
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The funny thing about reparations is you just have to go back one step in the process of slavery and you arrive at the black Africans who enslaved and sold nearly 100% of the Africans sent over hear. The European slavers where middle men. The practice of selling other Africans into slavery was universal among West African tribes. Pretty much all current African Americans are descendent from these same tribes, so if they want to get reparations from the ancestors of those who profited from depriving their own ancestors of freedom, they need look no farther than their neighbor. Pretty much every black person in the us has a slaver for an ancestor
All of which is entirely relevant to the US government's culpability in slavery and Jim Crow.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:14 pm to
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All of which is entirely relevant to the US government's culpability in slavery and Jim Crow.
I mean, it's as valid as talking about providing reparations to people for something that happened to someone else, and extracting those reparations from other people who had nothing to do with it either.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:17 pm to
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The funny thing about reparations is you just have to go back one step in the process of slavery and you arrive at the black Africans who enslaved and sold nearly 100% of the Africans sent over hear. The European slavers where middle men. The practice of selling other Africans into slavery was universal among West African tribes. Pretty much all current African Americans are descendent from these same tribes, so if they want to get reparations from the ancestors of those who originally profited from depriving their own ancestors of freedom, they need look no farther than their neighbor. Pretty much every black person in the us has a slaver for an ancestor




The problem with them asking the African tribes for reparations will be the fact that the entire continent of Africa is a shite hole. There are no structures built by the indigenous people of Africa that will last through a good rain storm. Mud huts and used sheet tin. Cardboard boxes and old pallets. (Egypt has structures that will last but they are not what most people equate with an African American).

I had a black coworker who once said she was glad that someone put her ancestors in chains because any one living in America is better off that 99.5% of the people living in Africa. She was right. That was back in the early 90's. She died earlier this year at the age of 84.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Is the irony that blacks in general were better off as slaves lost on everyone? No , I'm not saying that blacks should still be slaves, I am simply saying that blacks have either destroyed themselves or let themselves be destroyed since slavery ended. You read a history book and family used to be important to nearly all blacks, slaves would literally risk death to learn to read, etc etc..... Now.............


Blacks were fine post slavery. Overall many were self sufficient and took care of one another. The problem that came into the black community was influence and involvement from whites. Tulsa, the massacre in Florida, multiple lynchings, bombings and so on had adverse effects that set back progress that black communities were making. Then, you move forward to segregation. Because of the the past instances I mentioned above, alot of blacks figured they needed to be integrated to feel safer or more accepted. The aggressive acts towards blacks had successful made blacks self loathe themselves and had demeaned them in their own minds without whites really having to say a single word. Integration wasn't truly needed. All the black community needed was to be left the frick alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:19 pm to
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I mean, it's as valid as talking about providing reparations to people for something that happened to someone else, and extracting those reparations from other people who had nothing to do with it either.
Not even slightly. The US Sovereign is by definition a non-individual, timeless entity. All sorts of appropriations and other actions are paid for by taxes from people who had "nothing to do" with whatever is being addressed. That's the very nature of a sovereign government.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:21 pm to
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FIFY

Slavery was evil. We should erase history and make our current environment like it never happened......
I knew you didn't like black people, but geez
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:22 pm to
See it won't even be a few years before these idiots put reparations in their platform

2 generations of affirmative action is plenty of reparations
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:43 pm to
As an Acadiana French Catholic, my family was persecuted by the English Protestants, where's my check?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19680 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:58 pm to
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As an Acadiana French Catholic, my family was persecuted by the English Protestants, where's my check?
as a person of white European descent, generations of white sailors (literally millions) where carried into slavery by North African Barbary states and chained into galleys or castrated and brainwashed into janissaries. I'm gonna need somebody to cough it up for my genetic memory pain
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33397 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:00 pm to
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2 generations of affirmative action is plenty of reparations
For Jim Crow? nah
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19680 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:01 pm to
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as a person of white European descent, generations of white sailors (literally millions) where carried into slavery by North African Barbary states and chained into galleys or castrated and brainwashed into janissaries. I'm gonna need somebody to cough it up for my genetic memory pain
or even better, im gonna need some reparations for my north European neanderthal dna contribution. We never asked for homo erectus to come out of Africa and make us extinct. No justice no peace
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Pay them and then expel them from the Country never to return.


You will receive a zillion down votes for that post, but it is actually the best solution.

Blacks of today, who actually believe they and their families, are worse off for being brought here, than when their ancestors sold them in to slavery need to go home.
I am so tired of their bullshite that I am willing to pony up and pay for them to receive a one time reparations check and be banned from ever stepping foot in the US again. It should also extend to their descendants to at least the next 3 generations.

Of course I know I am a racist for the above but let us really discuss the point.

No US ancestor of mine ever owned a fricking slave. I actually had ancestors who died during the Civil War on both sides of the conflict and 2 of them died at Antietam. Therefore every time I hear about slavery as an excuse it only makes me want to spit on those who cling top it.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 2:13 pm
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