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The AHCA is failing because Trump is a bad dealmaker

Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:27 pm
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Trump weakened his negotiating position by showing his hand

Trump's public comments about the healthcare bill gave individual Republicans in Congress two pieces of information that reduced their incentive to compromise with him about the bill's contents:

1. Trump doesn't really care what the bill does, exactly, so long as he can sign it and say that it "repeals and replaces" Obamacare.

2. Trump really, really wants to sign some bill quickly so he can get past this healthcare chore and move on to fun topics like trade and taxes.

You don't walk into a negotiation and tell your counterparty that you're desperate to make a deal fast and on any terms. But Trump did just that, which is why Freedom Caucus members knew the White House was bluffing when they claimed the bill was closed and wouldn't be amended further.

Trump invited the Freedom Caucus to squeeze him dry. Weak! Bad!

Trump eventually seemed to realize this error, claiming if no bill passed by Friday he wouldn't participate in future efforts to repeal Obamacare.

But that threat was implausible because of his prior admissions.

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Trump is too untrustworthy to make credible side-deals

Often, a member of Congress agrees to vote for the president's pet piece of legislation, and the president promises to advance the member's favorite regulatory initiative, or to advocate for another piece of legislation later, or to campaign for that member's reelection.

Trump might be making such promises. But because he has a decades-long reputation for reneging on his promises to counterparties, members are unlikely to trust Trump when he does so. This limits his negotiating toolbox; because he can't be trusted, his promises have to be made good in the bill text itself.

Trump's assurance that the bill's limitations — for example, its limited impact on insurance regulations under Obamacare — will be addressed through executive action and future legislation do not seem to be convincing enough of his party's own representatives to get this bill passed.

In a way, this is similar to the way Trump alienated mainstream banks with his reputation for not repaying debts, forcing him to seek increasingly creative means of financing his businesses. Screwing your partner in one deal makes it harder to get the next deal done.

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Trump's policy ignorance hinders his judgment about what terms to propose

"Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated," Trump declared in February.

Actually, a lot of people did know that, but Trump seems to have been personally unprepared for the interconnected nature of healthcare policy. Moving the wrong piece can cause the healthcare market to crash down like a Jenga tower, and Trump has no idea how to determine which blocks are loose.

This is how the White House apparently ended up offering Freedom Caucus members the repeal of Essential Health Benefits rules from Obamacare, as part of a last-ditch effort to win their votes.

This policy change — which would allow insurers to sell health plans that don't cover pregnancy, or even plans that don't cover doctor's visits at all — moves the bill to the "right" and looks at first glance like something that should help conservative members of the House Republican conference get on board.

But as I wrote on Wednesday, repealing the EHB rules while leaving other Obamacare rules in place would create a huge mess in health insurance markets that doesn't appeal to anyone. Rep. Justin Amash, one of the sharpest critics of Obamacare's healthcare regulations in the House, said repealing this specific regulation by itself "makes the bill worse, not better."

By making the EHB offer, Trump also scared away moderates like Rep. Charlie Dent and Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, but did not pick up the votes of many Freedom Caucus members
who pointed out (not unreasonably) that if you're going to repeal EHB you also need to repeal Obamacare's rule that requires insurers to cover pre-existing conditions, as otherwise insurance markets could collapse.
Cue "if it's failing it's because the infallible God-Emperor secretly wants it to"
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:28 pm to


Failing because House and Senate Republicans continue to be the spineless wimps they were under Obama.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:28 pm to
Not true

It's failing because it's a bad bill.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39496 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57272 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

The AHCA is failing because Trump is a bad dealmaker
nah. It's failing because it's a bad bill.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
Trump is for Healthcare for everyone.

This is 10D chess. People think this is defeat, its actually winning.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38286 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
The only thing I know is he is 1,000,000 times the deal maker you are.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99057 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
Iosh's posts on TD are failing because he is a bad troll.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
It failed because it's a shite bill, but those are valid points as far as negotiation is concerned.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
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It's failing because it's a bad bill.
So your underlying premise is "a bill being bad is sufficient for Congress not to pass it?"

Because I can think of, oh, a couple thousand exceptions to that rule. From both parties.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Trump is too untrustworthy to make credible side-deals



Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14497 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Trump eventually seemed to realize this error, claiming if no bill passed by Friday he wouldn't participate in future efforts to repeal Obamacare.

But that threat was implausible because of his prior admissions.


Watch. This will not be brought up again.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28122 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
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By making the EHB offer, Trump also scared away moderates like Rep. Charlie Dent and Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, but did not pick up the votes of many Freedom Caucus members who pointed out (not unreasonably) that if you're going to repeal EHB you also need to repeal Obamacare's rule that requires insurers to cover pre-existing conditions, as otherwise insurance markets could collapse.


Lol

Never operated in good faith

Cucks
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81817 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
Failing bc it's a horseshite bill.

My faith in the GOP is somewhat restored - happy that there are enough patriots to defeat a strong arm attempt
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
Mark Meadows: house freedom caucus chair
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
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It's failing because it's a bad bill.
With the full support of Trump. Why?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12936 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
It's a terrible bill. Glad it is failing. That's all. I'm not concerned how Trump feels about it or how it makes him look.

Give Rand Paul's bill a chance.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
Proof of the OPs statement trunp cannot be taken at his word is "mexicans will pay for wall." Trump cutting coast guard to pay for show-wall, whereas coast guard actually protects us.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140539 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:31 pm to
How about cueing "it's not a good bill" instead.
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