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re: The ACA Helped Drive Down Personal Bankruptcies
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
It's incredible that you are trying to wordfrick this into a positive.
I hate giving you of all people credit but this made me lol
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:31 am to BamaAtl
quote:
Others would seem to disagree with your opinion. We can all agree that the ACA certainly hasn't raised the cost of healthcare to the point that it's increased bankruptcies, which puts the lie to many of your claims on here
We know the ACA add to the costs of doing business. Do we know how many went bankrupt because of the added costs? Do we know how many elected to close because they couldn't afford the added costs? No we don't, but we can speculate that there were some who did go bankrupt, and some who did close because they couldn't turn a profit because of extra costs.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:32 am to BamaAtl
What caused those 2 big spikes?
Come on, you know the answer.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
As usual, BamaAtl with the sweet cherry-picked charts.
Butbutbut that's just anecdotes, not data!
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:36 am to BamaAtl
Lord have mercy.
I hope you don't actually treat people.
I hope you don't actually treat people.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:36 am to BamaAtl
quote:
You didn't read the article. Why not?
Because from looking at the graph you posted, it was easy to ascertain it was a half arse article that took one point in time and tried to make it the driving force for a much larger problem.
I'd bet that you could take a graph of bankruptcies immediately after the great depression, pick out an event such as FDR's laws taking the US off the gold standard, and use that to credit FDR with declining bankruptcies.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:44 am to BamaAtl
quote:Well, according to you people that can't pay never even seek treatment, so... there is nothing to pass on.
And they would NEVER pass that cost on to other consumers in the form of higher prices.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:46 am to BamaAtl
Something about correlation and causation.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:50 am to Taxing Authority
In all fairness, thats probably accurate due to people jumping in a pool to drown themselves after being subjected to a Nick Cage movie.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:53 am to BamaAtl
quote:
why does this chart start at 2009
Because the ACA was passed in 2010.
And your chart clearly shows bankruptcies were declining before ObamaCare was implemented.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:55 am to AUbused
That and,
Did you know that all cancer victims have ingested di-hydrogen monoxide at some time in their lives?
Did you know that all cancer victims have ingested di-hydrogen monoxide at some time in their lives?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:57 am to BamaAtl
During the time the ACA has been law neither the Saints nor LSU has won a national title. Charts show this. Get rid of the ACA!
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:58 am to BamaAtl
Not reading your BS. I'm sure it did help because other financially responsible people have to pay for these dumbasses. You aren't too bright if you think this is a success story. And obviously, you are not one that is paying the bill.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:08 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:08 am to BamaAtl
This has more to do with the economy than trying to correlate bankruptcies and the ACA.
It's just a coincidence bankruptcies started declining in 2010 at the height of the recession?
It's just a coincidence bankruptcies started declining in 2010 at the height of the recession?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:10 am to BamaAtl
Correlation does not equal causation.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:11 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
This has more to do with the economy than trying to correlate bankruptcies and the ACA.
It's just a coincidence bankruptcies started declining in 2010 at the height of the recession?
Didn't read the article, did you?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
why does this chart start at 2009, the year that people started filing bankruptcies following the crash of 2008?
The intellectual dishonesty of these twats is astounding
I'm sure it was the ACA, not the slowing of filings following a massive downturn
Go ask a bankruptcy attorney which contributed more.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:16 am to BamaAtl
quote:
Didn't read the article, did you?
quote:
The many experts we interviewed also pointed to two other contributing factors: an improving economy and changes to bankruptcy laws in 2005 that made it more difficult and costly to file. However, they almost all agreed that expanded health coverage played a major role in the marked, recent decline.
It's a great opinion piece, one that fits your narrative. Thanks for posting.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:17 am to BamaAtl
quote:
Didn't read the article, did you?
2nd paragraph:
"courts never ask people to declare why they're filing"
Meaning that everything after that sentence is a theory.
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