re: Swiss Investor Marc Faber: America would be like Zimbabwe if blacks were the majority

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So what’s you’re saying is there isn’t any? Glad you concede and we agree. Saves us both a lot of time.

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Is there any proof at this point that we aren't from Mars? F****** dumbass. Do you try to prove all of your arguments to the use of double negatives?

Is Timbuktu in Zimbabwe? I would post some smart-arse comment about sundowners, but you already have that base covered.

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Please name one black majority country you would consider to be successful by modern standards.

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Name one such country that would have been considered successful at the beginning of the colonial period. Were not they subject to colonialization because, for whatever reason, they were 100s of years less advanced than the countries that colonized their land. The same holds true for the American Indians.

If the earth gets colonized by aliens, it won't be because we were more advanced than them.

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Timbuktu in Zimbabwe? I would post some smart-arse comment about sundowners, but you already have that base covered.

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It's certainly more related to Zimbabwe than African Americans, you jackass

You’re so fricking stupid. You can’t even point to a city in our own country as evidence of black prosperity and the basis for your argument. They don’t fricking exist.

If only the white man had not raped and exploited Africa we'd already be able to time travel and have 3 generations of humans on Mars already. Damn shame.

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Please name one black majority country you would consider to be successful by modern standards.

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Dunkelman has the right idea.

That said, a few Black majority countries are growing considerably well.

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In terms of GDP ( PPP ) per head; these are the richest black countries right now : GDP ( PPP ) per capita by country, CIA figures, 2015 est. Source, Wikipedia :

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?6. Bermuda $85700 ( 2013 estimate )

?13. St. Maarten $66800 ( 2011 est. )

? 32. Cayman Islands $43800 ( 2004 est.)

? 34. British Virgin Islands $42300 (2010 est )

? 50. Equatorial Guinea $33300

? 51. Trinidad and Tobago $32000

?57. Turks and Caicos Islands $29100 ( 2007 est. )

?68. The Bahamas $25600

?69. Aruba $25300

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This is what will be America or would have been if ruled by these people.

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Think again buddy.

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And I was telling you that Southern has a University, and you cant use the fact that a 'black' university is somehow a bastion of academic excellence. Southern is a mess

Maybe so was Timbuktu?

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I know what you're saying. My reading comprehension works just fine. What you're not getting is it Timbuktu was THE FIRST University. Since the start of the thread was about how black people basically on their own couldn't possibly Prosper or create any sort of civilized society I would say the Timbuktu thing completely destroys that point

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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university.

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Timbuktu was founded in the 11th century and became a permanent settlement in the 12th century. According to collegestats.org, these 6 universities were founded before Timbuktu even became a permanent settlement. And that also discounts the schools in every ancient culture, including the Egyptians, Greeks, & Romans. The use of "university" is a little dishonest. Which as you can see below, was coined to describe the University of Bologna at its founding. So, technically, that would be the first university.

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University of Al-Karaouine: Located in Fes, Morocco, this university originally was a mosque founded in 859 by Fatima al-Fihri, a woman. It developed into one of the leading universities for natural sciences. It wasn’t until 1957 that the university added mathematics, physics, chemistry and foreign languages. This university is considered the oldest continuously-operating degree-granting university in the world by the Guiness Book of World Records.

Al-Azhar University: This university, located in Egypt, is the world’s second oldest surviving degree-granting institute. Founded in 970-972, this university serves as a center for Arabic literature and Sunni Islamic learning. Al-Azhar university concentrates upon a religious syllabus, which pays special attention to the Quranic sciences and traditions of the Prophet Muhammad on the one hand, while also teaching all modern fields of science.

Nizamiyya: This series of universities was established by Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk in the eleventh century in what is now present-day Iran. The most celebrated of all the Nizamiyya schools is Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad, established in 1065 in Dhu’l Qa’da and that remains operational in Isfahan. But, this was just one of many Nizamiyyah schools — others were located in Nishapur, Amul, Mosul, Herat, Damascus, and Basra. The Nizamiyya schools served as a model for future universities in the region, and al-Mulk often is seen as responsible for a new era of brilliance which caused his schools to eclipse all other contemporary learning institutions.

University of Bologna: This university was the first higher-learning institute established in the Western world in 1088. The term, “university,” was coined at its creation. Located in Bologna, Italy, this university led the Western world in educational innovations until the period between the two World Wars. At that time, leaders called upon the university to forge relationships with institutions in more advanced countries to modernize and re-invigorate its educational philosophies. This university met the call and, today, is considered a leader in the European university system.

University of Paris: This university’s exact founding is unclear; however, teaching from this university existed since 1096. The university was reorganized as 13 autonomous universities in 1970. Often referred to as the Sorbonne after the College de Sorbonne (founded about 1257), this institute grew up in the latter part of the twelfth century around Notre Dame Cathedral as a corporation centered on the fields of arts, medicine, law and theology. In 1968 the cultural revolution commonly known as “the French May” resulted in the closing of the university for only the third time in history. The first occasion was in 1229, and the second was due to the invasion by the German army of 1940.

University of Oxford: Like the University of Paris, the exact date of this university’s founding is unclear. The formal founding date, however, is 1096 — although teaching from the Oxford location is considerably older than this date. This institute developed rapidly from 1167, when Henry II banned English students from attending the University of Paris. The school has temporarily closed twice, once in 1209 for the town execution of two scholars and in 1355 for the St. Scholastica riot. Currently, this oldest English-speaking university contains 38 colleges, each with its own internal structure and activities.

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Of course, that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa and creating a welfare state and disenfranchising its own citizens.

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If that's true, please show evidence of all the great & wonderful civilizations & advancements in science & technology that all the African tribes had before the Europeans showed up. I'm pretty sure they were still running around in loin cloths & using spears. Also, how do you explain the vast drop in success of Zimbabwe & South Africa after the whites were displaced? Wouldn't it be easier to at least maintain success instead of building it from the ground up like the white settlers did?

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hundreds of years that black people have been bred for certain features

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That's just hilarious. So, you admit that black people are genetically inferior to whites in intelligence, right? You can't claim they were bred for strength at the expense of intelligence and then say that they are equal to others.

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that have been enslaved, generations of shity Education because they weren't allowed to go to the same school as whites, and then had a very hard time landing similar jobs as white people.

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Again, Africans existed for centuries before white people became involved in Africa. Why did they not advance at a rate comparable to Europe & Asia? Your argument also ignores the fact that non-blacks from poor countries have been able to find success in America.

I know you're liberal and just want to blame the lack of success of black people (as a whole) on the evil whiteys, but that simply isn't the case. There are several black people on this board that don't subscribe to the "cultcha" that so many blacks in America do and are quite successful. Why are black people from 2 parent, educated homes able to find success if they are so discriminated against? Maybe, just maybe, it's the prevalent culture so many subscribe to.