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re: Swiss Investor Marc Faber: America would be like Zimbabwe if blacks were the majority

Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:04 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:04 am to
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it will appease you, I'm very much a racist. I believe that certain groups have inherent advantages or disadvantages based on their DNA over other groups. It is not that hard to understand or controversial in nature except to those who have an agenda.

You speak about the anger of Republican radio, yet keep calling names and spew vitriol and truly the most vile of all.

You were asked a simple question and have fallen all over the place trying to circumnavigate the truth. Zimbabwe is a disaster and whites are being hunted and killed yet its never mentioned. The largest net exporter in Africa now has to import its food. It has a third world crime rate, hospital system, education system and has staggering debt to gdp. Tell me what has changed in the country these past few years to possibly explain the situation.

This is what will be America or would have been if ruled by these people. It already is America in many cities and very evident by the decay and marginalized standard of living in black run towns.

Now make some excuse regarding whatever is the black apologist cop out du jour and be wrong. It a consistent theme in your comments.



Honestly you're so f***** up I have no idea what to say. I literally gave you an example about how they were the very first ones to be Advanced for occupation before welfare state for indoctrination, for violence was carried out to that community.

The only one falling all over the place here to try to explain a point is you. You can't even Supply any real information other than a broad sweeping assumption that America would be like Zimbabwe. I don't even know how to explain to you how f****** stupid that is

Does it bug you to know that all people started in Africa?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:07 am to
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No, we don't believe that at all. We believe that the culture of the urban black family has been destroyed by ostensibly well-intentioned social programs of the last 50 years that have steadily eroded the family and achievement mindset that is vital for success in America. We believe that this has been done by a craven political machine that seeks to have a voting bloc feel it is dependent on them, when in fact they are born with the same aspirations and abilities as anyone else.

The physical chains are gone, but Democrats seek to keep blacks just as enslaved as 150 years ago.


First off, that's incredibly absurd. Secondly, you may want to check with the other people on this board cuz that does not seem like their point at all. Most of them are definitely insinuating that is the black community that is inferior and has inferior DNA.

There's a few of people like you that have your opinion but at the end of the day they would have to blame white people for the plight of black people which is really hard for them to do.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 12:22 am
Posted by dunkelman
shreveport
Member since Oct 2005
1374 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:09 am to
From Wiki on said Timbuktu:
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The University of Timbuktu was unlike the modern university in that there was no central organization or formal course of study. Instead, there were several independent schools, each having its own principal instructor. Students chose their teachers, and instruction took place in mosque courtyards or private residences. The primary focus was on study of the Quran and Islamic subjects


Not sure how that supports your argument. If you tell me that a tribe in the Brazillian jungle had a great high school system 1,000 years ago, then why hasn't their civilization advanced despite having almost no contact from outsiders at all. Meanwhile, man is landing on the moon. We don't have to assume that these two peoples are just equal.
Posted by kool_keef
IL
Member since Dec 2014
16 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:11 am to
So impoverished.



Much despair.



Wow.



I'm not claiming anywhere in Africa is a utopia, but the claim made in the OP is pure BS.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20471 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:16 am to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university


It didn't. The first university had been established in Morocco before Timbuktu was even a permanent settlement.

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that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa


Again not true. The "university" was founded after north African Muslims took over.



Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:17 am to
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First off, that's incredibly absurd. Secondly, you may want to check with the other people in this bored cuz that does not seem like they're pointed at all.


Wait. Which am I? Absurd (with no elaboration on why) or like the rest of the "bored"?

Sure seems like you deal in a pretty wide set of generalities for someone who espouses the value of the individual.

(Oh, and answer fast. Looks like this thread is now anchored.)
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 12:18 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:19 am to
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Not sure how that supports your argument. If you tell me that a tribe in the Brazillian jungle had a great high school system 1,000 years ago, then why hasn't their civilization advanced despite having almost no contact from outsiders at all. Meanwhile, man is landing on the moon. We don't have to assume that these two peoples are just equal.



Well first off you're putting a lot of value on on the type of education you received versus the type of education others receive.

A lot of the manuscripts that have been translated from the Timbuktu University show advanced math, philosophy, and manuscripts about basic human rights. I would say for the 1300's that's pretty advanced.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:24 am to
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o, we don't believe that at all. We believe that the culture of the urban black family has been destroyed by ostensibly well-intentioned social programs of the last 50 years that have steadily eroded the family and achievement mindset that is vital for success in America. We believe that this has been done by a craven political machine that seeks to have a voting bloc feel it is dependent on them, when in fact they are born with the same aspirations and abilities as anyone else.


This is the absolute truth.

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There's a few of people like you that have your opinion but at the end of the day they would have to blame white people for the plight of black people which is really hard for them to do.




And there, you prove his point. You are one of those people who falsely believes the only black identity is victimhood.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:26 am to
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And there, you prove his point. You are one of those people who falsely believes the only black identity is victimhood.


Certainly plays a pretty big role. I mean I did actually read history at some point. Like almost any of it.

I really think that it's better to go with them being victims of an oppressive culture versus being inferior genetically, mainly because its actually true.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:29 am to
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I really think that it's better to go with them being victims of an oppressive culture versus being inferior genetically, mainly because its actually true.


I agree.

I also agree that this was slavery 150 years ago.

It was Jim Crow 60 years ago.

It is the activists and DNC today.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:34 am to
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There's a few of people like you that have your opinion but at the end of the day they would have to blame white people for the plight of black people which is really hard for them to do.



I do blame white people.

I blame George Wallace of 50 years ago.

I blame the Clinton's and their ilk today.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
20471 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:37 am to
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I really think that it's better to go with them being victims of an oppressive culture versus being inferior genetically, mainly because its actually true.




No, it's better to look to the source of the actual problems in the community, rather than inventing oppression.

I'll give you a hint, those problems aren't related to race, and they aren't related to something that happened generations ago.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:38 am to

Atlanta,GA

Raleigh, SC

Washington DC

Baltimore, MD

Charlotte, NC

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:49 am to
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. If their money comes from people from developed nations dumping vacation money at the Four Seasons that was built with investment capital from developed countries, a high PPP can hardly be attributed to some intrinsic characteristic of the service industry folks working at the Four Seasons. 


Well. Think of it this way.

Tourism is still an industry. It relies on human capital (visitors) and supplies a means of employment for citizens.

Granted its not the modus operandi of most western countries.

However, its pretty impressive that a small country can convince and entertain so much $ from a larger more developed nation. :)
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:59 am to

If you're serious about learning more. Check out Extra Credits on YouTube. Fall of the Bronze Age. Mini episodes 10 min each.

Outside of that, keep in mind that many advanced civilizations fell apart for multiple reasons

1) Too many Natural Disasters

2) Famines that agricultural techniques couldn't conquer.

3) political oversight ( or corruption)

4) Cost to train sufficient armies vs the attrition, disease, and landscape to effectively use them.

This plagued multiple western tribes that were lost to history as well as eastern. (Although west and east at this time were different from a modern context)

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20471 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:03 am to
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Atlanta,GA

Raleigh, SC

Washington DC

Baltimore, MD

Charlotte, NC



Raleigh and Charlotte aren't really good examples. They are majority white cities.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20471 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:08 am to
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However, its pretty impressive that a small country can convince and entertain so much $ from a larger more developed nation. :)




Cuba could be one of the wealthiest nations in the western hemisphere. It's a beautiful island. The communists have successfully kept that from happening, though.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:41 am to
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ancient civilizations were wiped out by complete morons that just so happen to be white


God,this is unbelievably idiotic.Ancient "civilizations " were wiping each other out in N America,Africa,South America and Asia LONG before any Europeans showed up.

BTW the Europeans were doing the same to each other

Blame whitey though...it's always much easier than actually trying to look at the facts.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47470 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:24 am to
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. The communists have successfully kept that from happening, though.
more like the 50 year U.S. trade embargo...
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:12 am to
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more like the 50 year U.S. trade embargo...



bull shite

The leftist idiocy in this thread is hilarious.

The US would be a lovely cross between Jackson Mississippi and Memphis.

How anybody can look at the Congressional Black Caucus and say anything different is amazing.

40+ members, 40+ morons
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