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Stephen A. Smith: Trump Is Winning the National Anthem Protest Debate

Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:55 am
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"In the end, what it really, really comes down to is the president has successfully hijacked this issue," Smith said on "First Take," explaining that the original purpose of the anthem protests - highlighting racial inequality and police brutality - has been lost. "He's turned it into an issue about patriotism and beyond. He's catering to his base in the process," Smith said. "He is the one that's winning because he's turned this into something that the players didn't intend to. So they're going to have to find a different mechanism to make their voices heard, because Trump has won this round."


Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:55 am to
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Trump Is Winning the National Anthem Protest Debate


He already won it.

Defending spoiled millionaires that protest the flag is not a good strategy.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7770 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:56 am to
Of course he is and its why he's trying to keep it alive.

The fact is that, no matter what the intent of the kneeling, they were never going to get past the optics of doing it during the national anthem. To your average american its just plain disrespectful, unnecessary, and honestly counterproductive.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94847 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:56 am to
SAS proving to be smarter than you would think for a loudmouth talking head.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:57 am to
Yeah he won it from the moment he said something

It's the easiest win ever just too many beta male cuck SOBs in 2017 to realize it
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:57 am to
don't worry, a washed up white rapper to the rescue lol
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:58 am to
Yep. Smith gets it. As much as I hate it, this is a winning issue for Trump. People hate Trump, but they hate the NFL and political correctness even more.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:59 am to
People are still pushing the narrative that the players "didn't intend to disrespect the flag." This reasoning conflates the method with the message. The message might have been about police brutality, but the method of attention was decidedly acts of disrespect regarding the flag and anthem. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. You protested by disrespecting the country and flag.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:00 am to
He won because he took the side most people were on.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:01 am to
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You protested by disrespecting the country and flag.


This is undeniable.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:02 am to
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they're going to have to find a different mechanism to make their voices heard

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:02 am to
Also these dumbasses in the NFL should start realizing something: the election is in the middle of football season. If they keep up this shite, then Trump will be reelected for sure, this time carrying Minnesota, Colorado, and New Hampshire along with every state he previously won.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:03 am to
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He won because he took the side most people were on.
go figure the double digit IQ illiterates of the NFL lost a battle of simple optics/ad marketing to Donald trump

it's about saying "America is racist" but even if you take them at their word that means they're so stupid they can't figure out that the optics destroy any chance of getting their message across
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:04 am to
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He won because he took the side most people were on.




This is why Trump is so awesome, he is not afraid to take a stand and battle groups that everyone else is afraid of

He promotes common sense and exposes the foolishness of the radical left and those that want to normalize that radicalism
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:05 am to
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it's about saying "America is racist" but even if you take them at their word that means they're so stupid they can't figure out that the optics destroy any chance of getting their message across



they have no idea why they're protesting except trump ain't gonna tell us what to do!

Guess what? HE'S YOUR DADDY AND YOU WILL STAND
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:06 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:06 am to
They set out to shock people into understanding how racist America is by purposefully impugning a symbol of America. Now they’re shocked that they’re understood.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22237 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:07 am to
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"In the end, what it really, really comes down to is the president has successfully hijacked this issue," Smith said
Smith's choice of words is not correct and misleading (as often happens with these guys). "hijacked this issue" has sinister overtones. More correctly, he should have used "refocused this issue", returning it to where it belonged in the first place - before the MSM sprinkled their pixie dust on it.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:10 am
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:08 am to
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As much as I hate it,



this makes my heart smile!
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:08 am to
it's that simple.

even though a grade schooler could've won this, I have no doubts that jeb would've cucked on this hardcore if asked about it
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:08 am to
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The fact is that, no matter what the intent of the kneeling, they were never going to get past the optics of doing it during the national anthem. To your average american its just plain disrespectful, unnecessary, and honestly counterproductive.



This. Your cause can be as noble and just as can be (for the record, the assertion that black people in the USA in 2017 are an oppressed demographic targeted for extermination by police is complete bunk, but i digress), but if you choose to make a time specifically designated to honor symbols of unity (RE: the flag/anthem) your time to spread a message of political divisiveness, you're going to have a rough go of it from a perception standpoint.
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