re: So this is allegedly the repeal gameplan

Can't wait for the fireworks celebration and rose garden gala!

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Can't wait for the fireworks celebration

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I hear Hillary has a lot of leftover fireworks that might be available.....

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Your chart is stupid and pointless

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No, it's not. Jake88 seems to be under the impression there was no debate in the passing of Obamacare. The chart shows the process that was taken in the Senate.

And yes, I'm fully aware today's vote is simply a MTP vote. Even a handful of Republican Senators have said they have no idea what they're voting to proceed on as they haven't seen a bill. This is not standard procedure despite your efforts to cast yourself as the smartest person in the room. Yes, I know that once the MTP is approved it can then go to debate and mark up, but there still needs to be an actual bill to get to that point, and as of last night there still isn't a bill available to consider whether it is appropriate to proceed. This is not standard process.

Save your sanctimony for those that think Obamacare was actually written and passed behind closed doors. And that's not a defense of Obamacare. There a glaring problems with it.

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Just the establishment trying to force a handful of principled conservatives to vote for a bill that fricks the people

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The "principled conservatives" want to vote on a bill that fricks 32M Americans out of health insurance.

The "establishment" bill only fricks 22M.

Yay?

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There is no law preventing insurance from being sold across state lines.

Trumpkins fall for that as a the magic bullet. They must love being duped.

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Again you make things up simply to insult other people. NO ONE to my knowledge has said that it is currently illegal to sell health insurance across state lines. In fact the ACA itself allows states to set up a cooperative agreement with the National Association of Insurance Commissioners to develop standards for policies. The problem is that that section was never enacted, so there were no set standards and so insurance companies currently find it too much trouble to sell health insurance across state lines.

Also, of course another major problem with the ACA is Pelosi was right when she said "we have to pass the bill to know what's in it" because the bill itself allows the Secretary of Health and Human Services to set so many rules and regulations him or herself that Congress had no idea what they were going to do once they had the power to do it.

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So, of course it is legal to sell across state lines, it is also impossible because of the government regulations involved.

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NO ONE to my knowledge has said that it is currently illegal to sell health insurance across state lines.

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I can't speak of the legality, but only handful of states make it feasible to sell across state lines. Again, whether that's a legal or practical issue is irrelevant to the potential benefits that are restricted by government.

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Why is it a "clownshow?"

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b.c they have no pass to a realistic yes? It is all just theater, and not particularly interesting theater.

I would love to see a few dems vote for 2015 R&R, so it passes and watch republicans shite a brick.

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I don't care who controls what or what is legal. BCBS has an absolute monopoly in Alabama and it is fricking bullshite. It needs to be corrected.

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Alabama has a really high cost of entry for other insurance carriers because of its high heart disease and diabetes rate. There are some other factors, and the stranglehold BCBS has on the market does play a small part. Still, their rates are pretty reasonable when compared to other states.

Alabama is one of the states that would have greatly benefited from expanding Medicaid. The state Medicaid budget is in shambles with no sign of relief, and the injection of federal dollars would have provided a nice cushion, while also allowing better care options to rural citizens in desperate need of care. It also would have allowed BCBS to moderate their rates, and possible even open up the market to other carriers.

children who were on disability already received Medicaid before the ACA passed. it's a non-issue

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children who were on disability already received Medicaid before the ACA passed. it's a non-issue

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If Medicaid becomes a block grant (as it does under AHCA and BCRA), then there will inevitably be funding gaps. Not everyone who needs Medicaid (or qualifies) will be able to be covered.