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So is it official now that Trump was right about being surveiled by Obama admin
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:48 pm
Aka "wiretapped" by Obama?
I was just trying to figure out which way is North. Thanks. I'll hangup and listen to the call.
I was just trying to figure out which way is North. Thanks. I'll hangup and listen to the call.
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:49 pm to rebeloke
Trump was right again. Still not tired of winning.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:50 pm to rebeloke
was he wiretapped by Obama? in the literal sense, no.
was Trump right all along about being under surveillance? yes.
was Trump right all along about being under surveillance? yes.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:50 pm to rebeloke
He's only right if you
1. Move the goal posts tremendously
2. Believe anonymous/unnamed sources
1. Move the goal posts tremendously
2. Believe anonymous/unnamed sources
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:51 pm to HailToTheChiz
Can he still be POTUS then? Thanks in advance. 
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:51 pm to cahoots
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Believe anonymous/unnamed sources
Oh yes, today we don't believe them but tomorrow we will depending on the agenda.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:51 pm to rebeloke
There was never any doubt. If TRUMP says Obama bugged then Obama bugged him.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:53 pm to roadGator
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Oh yes, today we don't believe them but tomorrow we will depending on the agenda.
Devin Nunes has the BEST unnamed sources. We love Nunes' unnamed source dont we folks?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:54 pm to Adam Banks
Bigly!!
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:54 pm to rebeloke
No, we're far from anything resembling that. But it does make the proposition more interesting.
Doesn't matter here though. Nobody gives a shite about what the truth is. They either want to display fealty to Trump, or they want to impeach him.
Doesn't matter here though. Nobody gives a shite about what the truth is. They either want to display fealty to Trump, or they want to impeach him.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:55 pm to rebeloke
BUT MUH RUSSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:56 pm to rebeloke
This whole fricking embarrassment of an ordeal has been one big word game.
Retards one the left want to take Trump literally and if it didn't happen exactly as Trump stated, then he lied and should be impeached.
Retards on the right want to stretch Trump's words out to literally cover every single possible scenario so they can say "Trump was right!"
The only new information we have right now is that names other than Flynn's were named and that not all the surveillance was Russia related.
Everything else is pure speculation.
Retards one the left want to take Trump literally and if it didn't happen exactly as Trump stated, then he lied and should be impeached.
Retards on the right want to stretch Trump's words out to literally cover every single possible scenario so they can say "Trump was right!"
The only new information we have right now is that names other than Flynn's were named and that not all the surveillance was Russia related.
Everything else is pure speculation.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:58 pm to rebeloke
Anyone who took "wiretapping" literally is just plain dumb. I doubt Trump campaign officials were using old fashioned rotary phones with wires.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:05 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Anyone who took "wiretapping" literally is just plain dumb. I doubt Trump campaign officials were using old fashioned rotary phones with wires.
I think this misses the broader issue.
The left may use this argument, but that isn't the only manner by which Trump's tweet could be/was incorrect.
The real question is whether there is any legitimate argument that Obama had TT "tapped." That doesn't mean a physical 1980s wiretap, but it does mean surveillance targeted to Trump/Trump Tower, not communications picked up ancillary to other monitoring.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:06 pm to rebeloke
So I guess Fox News will have to reinstate judge Napolitano.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:08 pm to Revelator
That probably had to do with blaming an allied intelligence agency of spying on POTUS without any real evidence
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:09 pm to Pettifogger
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The real question is whether there is any legitimate argument that Obama had TT "tapped." That doesn't mean a physical 1980s wiretap, but it does mean surveillance targeted to Trump/Trump Tower, not communications picked up ancillary to other monitoring
Well, here's where it gets really convoluted. If the Obama administration intercepted inoccuous communications and retained them despite no intelligence value, does it become direct surveillance? Or as I've stated, they used indirect legal methods to perform the surveillance? And then once they unmasked the citizens and dissimenate the information does it become illegal direct surveillance?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:09 pm to HailToTheChiz
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was he wiretapped by Obama? in the literal sense, no.
We are not done yet.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:10 pm to Pettifogger
A better question is under what circumstance did Flynn's name get released and his conversation transcribed? An even better question is under what circumstance could WH acquire surveillance of Trump campaign and not disclose immediately? If this were a Rhino in the WH who did that to a Dem, it would be watergate 2.0.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:10 pm to Pettifogger
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Nobody gives a shite about what the truth is.
They will when it's all out.
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