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So because it is written, its True?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:06 pm
Why just because Comey wrote something on paper, it is taken as exactly how Trump said it or meant it or used those exact words, etc. You have a bitter man who got fired. Unless a verified tape is produced or Trump verifies those exact words and meaning, this is nothing.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:07 pm to Amblin
Dear diary....
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:09 pm to Amblin
He said, "he said"...
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:09 pm to Amblin
I read a fascinating piece about 'Memo to Self'. It's what a lot of people in business and agencies do now. It is not to be sent to another person. It's to be filed 'to self'. It's almost like a diary.
The author said that the only problem with it is that if two people have a private conference and then write memo to self, the two memos will not look the same even though they are recollections of the same meeting.
The author said that the only problem with it is that if two people have a private conference and then write memo to self, the two memos will not look the same even though they are recollections of the same meeting.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:10 pm to Amblin
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Why just because Comey wrote something on paper, it is taken as exactly how Trump said it or meant it or used those exact words, etc. You have a bitter man who got fired. Unless a verified tape is produced or Trump verifies those exact words and meaning, this is nothing.
He made these notes at the time and not after he was fired. Notes from an FBI agent are considered admissible in court as factual evidence.
If you wan't to go down the road of "he's probably lying" then you are gonna have a bad time.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:11 pm to Amblin
quote:The "diary" entry says he immediately discussed it with senior FBI leadership, so seemingly plenty of people to subpoena to find out.
So because it is written, its True?
Why just because Comey wrote something on paper, it is taken as exactly how Trump said it or meant it or used those exact words, etc. You have a bitter man who got fired. Unless a verified tape is produced or Trump verifies those exact words and meaning, this is nothing.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:20 pm to Haughton99
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Notes from an FBI agent are considered admissible in court as factual evidence.
They are admissible as evidence but not as truth. "Admissible evidence" includes the truth, lies, misrepresentations, mistakes, opinions, etc. The fact that it is "admissible" says little of its veracity or reliability. That's for the judge, jury, or other decision-making body to determine.
I think Comey's version will largely be credited as reliable as to the gist of the conversations, but people will question whether the wording is exact (whether due to natural memory issues or possible bias even if they were made relatively contemporaneously with the meetings). His summary memos will not have the same weight as says a recording would have, but it will likely have more weight than a recounting of the conversation by Trump at this point.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The "diary" entry says he immediately discussed it with senior FBI leadership, so seemingly plenty of people to subpoena to find out.
Yep, to why they didn't report anything if nefarious unless there is nothing to report.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:29 pm to Homesick Tiger
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So because it is written, its True?
Well.........
It was written, by the FBI Director, then submitted to the US Congress, as official testimony before a committee. I would think it is as reliable as it comes, without seeing with your own eyes.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:30 pm to Haughton99
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He made these notes at the time and not after he was fired. Notes from an FBI agent are considered admissible in court as factual evidence.
Do we really know that they were made at the time of the meeting or just because he says it was so? Could they have been made last week and Comey is lying?
I am not saying he is lying, just asking how do we know when they were written...
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:31 pm to Homesick Tiger
Stop with the spin and excuses. Trump is a corrupt amoral human being. Don't cast your lot with that fool. It's a betrayal of your daughter and mother to cast your lot with such a low life.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:08 pm to Amblin
Yep. Former LA Insurance Commissioner Jim Brown was convicted based on an agent's handwritten notes from a 30 minute interview.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:10 pm to Haughton99
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If you wan't to go down the road of "he's probably lying" then you are gonna have a bad time.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:13 pm to alphaandomega
quote:He said he shared them. And besides, it's 2017, we can digitally time stamp things quite easily.
Do we really know that they were made at the time of the meeting or just because he says it was so? Could they have been made last week and Comey is lying?
I am not saying he is lying, just asking how do we know when they were written...
Besides what would have to gain by making this up, since that would be illegal.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:13 pm to elposter
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They are admissible as evidence but not as truth. "Admissible evidence" includes the truth, lies, misrepresentations, mistakes, opinions, etc. The fact that it is "admissible" says little of its veracity or reliability. That's for the judge, jury, or other decision-making body to determine.
I think Comey's version will largely be credited as reliable as to the gist of the conversations, but people will question whether the wording is exact (whether due to natural memory issues or possible bias even if they were made relatively contemporaneously with the meetings). His summary memos will not have the same weight as says a recording would have, but it will likely have more weight than a recounting of the conversation by Trump at this point.
I think this is right.
Depending on what Coates and Pompeo testify to Mueller about whether Coates was asked to try to back Comey off the investigation, the evidence may look stronger or weaker.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:15 pm to DaCajun1
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Stop with the spin and excuses. Trump is a corrupt amoral human being. Don't cast your lot with that fool. It's a betrayal of your daughter and mother to cast your lot with such a low life.
This is how you melt people. Take note of a very good melt.
Kudos to you sir!
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:19 pm to Amblin
I said that from the beginning if all Comey has is his word against Our President then he has nothing and he knows it. TRUMP knows it too and that's why he fired him.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:20 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:Has Trump disputed anything in those memos?
I said that from the beginning if all Comey has is his word against Our President then he has nothing and he knows it. TRUMP knows it too and that's why he fired him.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:37 pm to Amblin
When the FBI director, the DNI, and the head of the NSA are all saying Trump asked them to intervene in the FBI investigation in some form or fashion, that establishes a pattern of obstruction by Trump such that no reasonable person would take him at his word.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:39 pm to Amblin
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Why just because Comey wrote something on paper, it is taken as exactly how Trump said it or meant it or used those exact words, etc. You have a bitter man who got fired. Unless a verified tape is produced or Trump verifies those exact words and meaning, this is nothing.
Not only that, but he doesn't seem to have memos on Obama or Hillary, but only Trump.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 5:40 pm
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