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re: Shrimp on a treadmill--the facts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:45 am to emcee422
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:45 am to emcee422
For only $2mil, I'll do a feasibility study to see a discarded garbage can, a timing belt from a Honda Civic, and an old Delco alternator, and a squirrel army can replace a coal-fired electric generation plant.
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:46 am to Bayou Sam
You really think we needed a study to find out why fat teens date less? Is that a big mystery to you?
I think we need to do some research into why dimocratix like you just insist on burning up other people's money..........while we are $18T in debt.
How did that "why are lesbians fat, and gayboys are not" study turn out?
I think we need to do some research into why dimocratix like you just insist on burning up other people's money..........while we are $18T in debt.
How did that "why are lesbians fat, and gayboys are not" study turn out?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:46 am to Bayou Sam
quote:No reasonable person is against funding scientific research dumbass, but we'd like to see some common sense in what is funded!
This is certainly false. The only real argument you can make is that, in principle, the government should not be funding science research--an argument that I find crazy!
I think everyone is sick and fricking tired of spending hundreds of millions on studying pig farts and fat lesbians.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:49 am to BugAC
quote:Completely and totally false.
I'm all for funding scientific research, but these grants aren't scrutinized at all.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:50 am to Bayou Sam
quote:
In academic science, that funding is spread over years--it pays for lab equipment, studies, graduate assistants, travel for conferences, etc.
This was $3 million dedicated to that 1 study. And he only spent $50 of his own money. So there is $3 million dollars that disappeared. There is no justification for this. If these funds are for
quote:for this one study then why is there no breakdown for that. Are you really going to tell me they need $3 million for this? That is absurd. Spending in ALL areas of government need to be cut, especially when it's unaccounted for, for frivolous studies such as these.
lab equipment, studies, graduate assistants, travel for conferences, etc.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:50 am to son of arlo
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son of arlo
You seem to think you are alot smarter and more clever than you really are.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:52 am to BugAC
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I'm all for funding scientific research, but these grants aren't scrutinized at all
AWESOME! I was trying to find the NSF grant number online and had no luck. What is it?
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:53 am to emcee422
Are you saying that because I left a battery out of the charging circuit?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:53 am to BugAC
quote:
If these funds are for
quote:
lab equipment, studies, graduate assistants, travel for conferences, etc.
for this one study then why is there no breakdown for that
Really ?!?! Damn dude, I gotta see this grant! What's the number?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:54 am to HonoraryCoonass
quote:
You really think we needed a study to find out why fat teens date less? Is that a big mystery to you?
How much does such a study cost, and did the government fund it?
You do realize, I hope, that the government does not fund every scientific project.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:54 am to emcee422
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emcee422
Where is the cost breakdown for these conferneces? You are telling me that this 1 study, costs $3 million in one year, when the actual study itself is conducted for free on the scientists dime. Where did the money go? What conferences? What labs? What salaries? 1 year of funding for $3 million and you can't show me where any of the money went. Yet you want to give the idiots more?
fricking liberals. You guys are so fricking stupid and inept when it comes to trusting government. How many times will it take for you to get fricked in the arse before you realize, you need to hang on to the soap better? Or are you really enjoying the arse rape?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:55 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Really ?!?! Damn dude, I gotta see this grant! What's the number?
I would love to see the grant. I would love to see the accountability and billings applied towards that grant. It is public funds so it should be public record correct? You do some digging, and i'll do some digging on my end, see what i can find.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:55 am to bhtigerfan
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No reasonable person is against funding scientific research dumbass, but we'd like to see some common sense in what is funded!
See this is the issue right here. Republicans throw their hands up in the air over a piece of scientific research(sometimes misrepresenting what said study's purpose was), and this makes their blind followers think they are against government spending. But if you say we should look at military spending, by far the largest use of government funds, in the same way you are a unpatriotic terrorist.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:56 am to Bayou Sam
quote:
In a separate set of experiments, penaeid shrimp that typically inhabit estuaries and regularly encounter high temperatures and low oxygen levels will be used to examine whether bacterial infection can alter anaerobic pathways. In these studies, shrimp infected with pathogenic bacteria will be exercised on small treadmills and changes in lactate, oxygen consumption, and activity monitored. These experiments will indicate whether sublethal infection can suppress normal respiratory activity and limit recovery.
The goal of these studies is to better understanding how pathogens can impact respiration and thereby disrupt metabolic pathways during activity.
LINK
But wait - the R's told us this research was just about seeing how long shrimp can run on a treadmill!
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:57 am to bhtigerfan
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No reasonable person is against funding scientific research dumbass, but we'd like to see some common sense in what is funded!
This is a nice thought, except that common sense is enormously unreliable (first lesson of science).
Case 1: conservative politicians reducing scientific projects to soundbites that appeal to your "common sense".
Is this crazy? I place much more trust in the scientists on the panels that award the precious few grants to academic labs around the country than I do in some half-literate congressmen applying "common sense" to reviews of these grants.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:58 am to BugAC
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You are telling me that this 1 study, costs $3 million in one year
This is not how scientific funding works. See my above post.
Or better yet, find a scientist in an academic lab near you, and ask them!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:58 am to BugAC
quote:
I would love to see the grant.
So when you said this:
quote:
but these grants aren't scrutinized at all.
you were talking about yourself?
How do you know the money just "disappeared" when you haven't even read the grant?
quote:That's generally something you might wanna do BEFORE you go off making claims that the grant was to waste 3 million dollars. Don't you think?
You do some digging, and i'll do some digging on my end, see what i can find.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:59 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
But wait - the R's told us this research was just about seeing how long shrimp can run on a treadmill!
Link?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:59 am to BugAC
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when the actual study itself is conducted for free on the scientists dime
See this is false. This one item, of one piece, of the larger study was paid for by the scientist.
quote:
fricking liberals
Not a liberal. Just not a partisan hack like yourself.
quote:
trusting government
You should be questioning the billions that are wasted in the major spending items, not on the drop in the bucket of scientific research.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:00 am to SpidermanTUba
Your all over this shrimp debate.
Good job on shrimp.
Good job on shrimp.
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