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Sessions wants lie detector test for NSC workers
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:22 pm
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has told associates he wants to put the entire National Security Council staff through a lie detector test to root out leakers. It's unclear whether this will ever happen, but Sessions floated the idea to multiple people, as recently as last month.
Sessions' idea is to do a one-time, one-issue, polygraph test of everyone on the NSC staff. Interrogators would sit down with every single NSC staffer (there's more than 100 of them), and ask them, individually, what they know about the leaks of transcripts of the president's phone calls with foreign leaders. Sessions suspects those leaks came from within the NSC, and thinks that a polygraph test — at the very least — would scare them out of leaking again.
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:24 pm to WPBTiger
Roses are red
Jeff is a flake
No one should worry
Polygraphs are fake
Jeff is a flake
No one should worry
Polygraphs are fake
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:25 pm to WPBTiger
has anyone actually been charged as a leaker? or is this all just blowing smoke?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:27 pm to Iosh
Downvote for posterity
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:32 pm to WPBTiger
I'm beginning to think Sessions' issue is that he doesn't value or understand empirical evidence (e.g., heroin is just a little worse than pot).
With an accuracy between 70 and 80 percent, giving a polygraph test to 100+ people and looking for a handful of leaker, will result in so many false positives, that they will basically be close to where they were before the polygraph.
With an accuracy between 70 and 80 percent, giving a polygraph test to 100+ people and looking for a handful of leaker, will result in so many false positives, that they will basically be close to where they were before the polygraph.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:33 pm to WPBTiger
Of course grandpa would think lie detectors are accurate.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:33 pm to IceTiger
If they have nothing to hide then they should be first in line to take it. But someone there DOES.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:36 pm to buckeye_vol
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With an accuracy between 70 and 80 percent, giving a polygraph test to 100+ people and looking for a handful of leaker, will result in so many false positives, that they will basically be close to where they were before the polygraph.
That's not how polygraphs are used by the intelligence community. They're used as an opportunity to interrogate. It's not a pass/fail test.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:37 pm to antibarner
quote:If 100 are innocent, and 10 are guilty, with a 70% accuracy 30 innocent people will look guilty compared to only 7 of the true guilty.
If they have nothing to hide then they should be first in line to take it. But someone there DOES.
So of the 37 who show up guilty, 30 will show up innocent (81%) meanwhile, 30% of those who are guilty will show up innocent.
It's a terrible idea.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:37 pm to WPBTiger
Good, can we put Sessions on the lie detector for why he passed on charging Lois Lerner? Quid pro quo bro.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:39 pm to Pecker
quote:Then the polygraph (as we know) is worthless, and they should interrogate them instead. If it is used to detect lies, then it's going to result in too many false positives to identify the few who are guilty.
That's not how polygraphs are used by the intelligence community. They're used as an opportunity to interrogate. It's not a pass/fail test.
In other words, it's disturbing that they use it anyways, or that anyone would advocate for its use.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:41 pm to WPBTiger
thumb tack sales in DC are about to spike
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:42 pm to WPBTiger
I want the firing squad.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:46 pm to buckeye_vol
Lol you out here trying to explain Type I and Type II errors to people whose brains are basically a "TRUMP? Y/N" flowchart at this point
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:46 pm to buckeye_vol
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Then the polygraph (as we know) is worthless, and they should interrogate them instead. If it is used to detect lies, then it's going to result in too many false positives to identify the few who are guilty.
You're off base here.
Polygraphs are used as a tool for questioning. They aren't viewed as "lie detectors" as you keep assuming. It's a tool to better read a respondent's physical state. It's one layer in the process.Every intelligence agency in the US uses them. The FBI uses them during the hiring process. They also use the threat of a polygraph to promote the honest answering of questions on applications.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:50 pm to WPBTiger
Polygraphs are an "enhanced" interrogation technique. They are basically used to frighten the subject into telling the truth but they are relatively easy to countermeasure. At the end, it's just the interrogator's opinion whether the subject is truthful or not.
MAGA
MAGA
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:52 pm to WPBTiger
Almost everyone at CIA, DIA, NSA, NCTC, etc requires a polygraph every five years at most (primary feeders for the National Security Staff). Don't know what Mr. Sessions hopes to accomplish.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:54 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Vigorous appearance of activity while getting nothing done. When in doubt imitate your boss.
Don't know what Mr. Sessions hopes to accomplish.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:59 pm to WPBTiger
quote:This just shows me that they have no idea where to look.
Sessions wants lie detector test for NSC workers
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:00 pm to WPBTiger
I'd show up baked
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