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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:24 pm to Dale51
Trumps legal team has wide scope of who they can call for a Defense in the Senate during impeachment.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:24 pm to jamboybarry
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I am extremely leery of Senate Repubs if the trial moves forward
I could see a Caesar moment in the senate whereas the knives all of a sudden come out
You are correct to be leery.
A majority of the Senate wants to remove Trump. This is not debatable.
That majority, 47 Dems and 4 Republicans can shut down anything Trump wants to do.
This is why McConnell says there aren't enough votes to dismiss.
It's also why McConnel is going to have to work with Schumer on the rules.
The wet dream of Republicans running some scorched Earth trial is a wet dream unfulfilled.
You won't hear from any Bidens, or Adam Schiff but you will hear from Bolton. Anyone trust that scumbag?
Based on what's known I see little chance Trump is removed.
It's what is not known that worries me.
There was no live witness testimony in Clinton's impeachment trial. None. The Senate tabled the motion on live witnesses and eventually only allowed taped depositions to be submitted.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:25 pm to Tiger985
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A majority of the Senate wants to remove Trump. This is not debatable
Ya, it is.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:28 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Where is a link on Graham saying this? I can’t find it...
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:28 pm to CamdenTiger
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Trumps legal team has wide scope of who they can call for a Defense in the Senate during impeachment
I agree. So what is Lindsey talking about?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:29 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Sasse, Romney, Murkowsky won’t vote for it.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:29 pm to Dale51
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I agree. So what is Lindsey talking about?
No one really knows since no one seems to have a link.
I mean is this a texridder or tarzana post and I missed it?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:31 pm to Tiger985
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This is why McConnell says there aren't enough votes to dismiss.
Prove it.
So in a matter of hours both Graham and McConnell simply declare "There are not enough votes".
Did they hold a secret vote that no one knows about?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:31 pm to Eli Goldfinger
That's ridiculous. I'm assuming Trump's defense team can call their own witnesses, and if so, those two would be call votes be damned
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:32 pm to Centinel
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Ya, it is.
Are you seriously going to tell me there aren't at least 4 Republicans that want to remove Trump for any reason?
You can't be that naive?
Trump likely has enough support to avoid conviction but he does not have enough support to control the rules of the trial.
His enemies do.
McConnell is going to have to work with Schumer on the rules because of Romney and 3 buddies.
Until 37 Senators come forward and commit to not removing Trump based on this sham I'm going to operate under the assumption that Trump is in grave danger.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:32 pm to Centinel
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no one seems to have a link.
Only links I can find are Graham saying after initial hearing of the "evidence," if there are 51 votes to end this thing that is what will be done. Not going to drag things out to trot out Bidens and Ciamerella. That's not a bad idea if your goal is to try and end circle of recriminations.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:33 pm to Dale51
Won't matter. Turtle will probably move to dismiss.
Then it's over. Both sides got to try and embarrass Trump.
Then it's over. Both sides got to try and embarrass Trump.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:34 pm to Tiger985
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Trump likely has enough support to avoid conviction but he does not have enough support to control the rules of the trial.
His enemies do.
McConnell is going to have to work with Schumer on the rules because of Romney and 3 buddies.
You do realize the rules already exist right? Any vote would be on substantive changes to the rules.
Unless you're insinuating that they'll vote to keep Trump's counsel from calling their own witnesses?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:34 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Sen Graham says not enough votes to call Hunter Biden or the WB to testify
I’m telling you, this poof CANNOT be trusted.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:36 pm to LSU0358
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Only links I can find are Graham saying after initial hearing of the "evidence," if there are 51 votes to end this thing that is what will be done. Not going to drag things out to trot out Bidens and Ciamerella
So end it and then call for the investigation.
Why not?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:45 pm to DeusVultMachina
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Sheila Jackson-hyphen-Lee can read.
Highly doubtful
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:49 pm to Dale51
Today, 37 US Senators could sign a letter stating that they will never vote to remove this President based on these sham Articles the House wants to send over.
End run McConnell and the whole damn process. It would be over. Done. They could continue with the bullshite process but the outcome would be known. Adios. Done.
Until something like that happens, Trump is at some level of risk. I'll stay concerned.
End run McConnell and the whole damn process. It would be over. Done. They could continue with the bullshite process but the outcome would be known. Adios. Done.
Until something like that happens, Trump is at some level of risk. I'll stay concerned.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
They can run...but they can't hide. The truth is out there - and after Barr/Durham's comments since the Report hit - it's obvious that they are all in after the Deep State CRIMINAL corruption. The criminal corruption which Comey is pushing as "mistakes". Yeaahhh! 
Barr and Durham are taking their time, and like Rush said...it's being timed for a very critical election. And they are building a watertight and irrefutable case, based on empirical FACTS which can not be spun...other that the willingly cognitively dissonant/confirmation biased.
Going to the mat. Dogfight. Just like with out Tigers. Win or lose.
Barr and Durham are taking their time, and like Rush said...it's being timed for a very critical election. And they are building a watertight and irrefutable case, based on empirical FACTS which can not be spun...other that the willingly cognitively dissonant/confirmation biased.
Going to the mat. Dogfight. Just like with out Tigers. Win or lose.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:53 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Senator Graham SAYS a lot of things.
Senator Graham delivers almost never.
Actions speak louder than words, Graham is damn near a mute.
Senator Graham delivers almost never.
Actions speak louder than words, Graham is damn near a mute.
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