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Seattle stops funding UW research term that found harmful effect of 15/hr minimum wage

Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:21 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:21 am
and reappropriates funding to Cal Berkeley economist who found more favorable results

For a party that prides itself on being "data driven" and "pro science", it seems to want to stick its fingers in its ears on this particular issue.

Last month, a group of scholars commissioned by the city of Seattle to study the effects of hiking the minimum wage struck a blow at the national “fight for 15” movement.

Their findings, which were widely covered in the media, showed that Seattle’s $13 minimum wage — part of a gradual increase to $15 — had all the negative effects that opponents of the policy feared. Low-wage employees had their hours cut by 3.5 million in a single quarter, costing more than $120 million in lost wages. The average worker lost $1,500 of income per year, hardly something those struggling to support themselves or their families could afford.

When faced with this data, even left-leaning publications such as Slate questioned whether the “fight for 15” had gone too far and was hurting those it was intended to help. So what did the Seattle City Council do? They killed the messengers and stuck their head in the sand.

It turns out that Seattle stopped funding the University of Washington research team led by Jacob Vigdor last fall, after the council had seen preliminary results. (The contract was supposed to run for five years, but it relied on annual appropriations for funding.) Their replacement? Berkeley economics professor Michael Reich, whose research coincidentally shows that minimum-wage increases help low-income workers.

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While human bias and cognitive dissonance are nothing new, the council’s blatant disregard for any viewpoint or data that contradict their preconceived worldview is astounding. But should it be? Studies have shown time and time again that a lack of ideological diversity leads to groupthink. And groupthink is prominently on display in Seattle.


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City-council member and avowed socialist Kshama Sawant, for example, once assured attendees at a council meeting that she had no Republican friends — to rapturous applause from the liberal crowd. She also defended the council’s moves regarding the minimum-wage study, saying, “The moment we saw it was based on flawed methodology and was going to be unreliable, the Vigdor study no longer speaks for City Hall.”




I find it somewhat horrifying that an actual member of the socialist internationale party is a major council leader of one of our major western cities. How did THAT happen?

Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:28 am to
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City-council member and avowed socialist Kshama Sawant

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BUSTED!!!
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:29 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:32 am to


a want may be anti-trump, but he is not at all a socialist.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:35 am to
I'm considered a leftist by this board but I'll agree raising the minimum wage isn't going to do anything but cause the price of products to increase.

Purchasing power will stay the same.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:36 am to
Couldn't help myself, stuck out like a sore thumb
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:55 am to
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:10 am to
This is how the "science" of man-made global warming was settled.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:39 am to
Yep

Now there is "consensus" among all researchers that Seattle is currently funding that raising the minimum raise is "good".

"I need some analysis."

"What do you want the numbers to be?"

Sounds like some of my former jobs
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3945 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:55 am to
Politicization of science

The Marxist march continues
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139784 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:58 am to
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but he is not at all a socialist.


I'm not so sure about that. Anyone that supports single payer/universal coverage is at least in part, socialist.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78915 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:00 am to
Good, why should they continue? They now know the results Will be dismissed as "bad science" however
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98480 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:01 am to
Thank goodness this is isolated behavior. Liberals would never do the same with a matter of global significance.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:41 am to
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“The moment we saw it was based on flawed methodology and was going to be unreliable, the Vigdor study no longer speaks for City Hall.”

Right, it's definitely best to give that job to an actual advocacy group instead
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79980 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:45 am to
Kshama Sawant has been stuck in a perpetual Vindaloop her entire existence.

Keep in mind that this is the same city that voted for a "tax increase on the rich" because they don't believe that the companies that provide revenue and income to that area don't pull their fair share.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:47 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:53 am to
The left approaches science in roughly the same manner that young Earth creation scientists approach it.

That's why when they call themselves The Party of science it's such a comedy
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:54 am to
You mean liberal policies tend to hurt the economy? But it makes them feel good about themselves, so screw your research.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:56 am to
You can run all the studies you want but the fact is that minimum wage needs to be raised.
Anyone with common sense will tell you that wages have not kept up with inflation over the past 30 years.
It has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:07 am to
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You can run all the studies you want but the fact is

Oh, what a scholar!
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164048 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:10 am to
This is the same thing they do to global warming scientists. You only hear about studies showing global warming because those are the groups the government funds. They don't fund or promote the groups who say the books are cooked.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28103 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:15 am to
The party of science
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