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re: Seattle files federal lawsuit over Trump threat to punish sanctuary cities
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:11 am to Toddy
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:11 am to Toddy
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I don't. What are you talking about? I am against what he is doing right now. A lot more people are getting deported right now than just violent criminals. It does not help anyone when families are getting ripped apart.
I hate it for the families, but they knew the dangers of coming here illegally.
What do you tell immigrants who spent years and money going through the immigration process?
And why does Mexico have a southern border wall?
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:12 am to NorthGwinnett LSU
i don't exactly know the details of the EO, but if those funds are related to immigration it's going to be REALLY hard for the states/cities to make an argument
there's a 5-point test
there's a 5-point test
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The spending must promote "the general welfare."
The condition must be unambiguous.
The condition should relate "to the federal interest in particular national projects or programs."
The condition imposed on the states must not, in itself, be unconstitutional.
The condition must not be coercive.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:13 am to Toddy
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A lot more people are getting deported right now than just violent criminals.
Mental disconnect Toddy...
It is still illegal.
Comprehension can be your friend.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Seattle is actually in compliance with the federal law the EO cites and always has been. It's almost like the mayor is intentionally trying to pick a fight with Trump for political reasons.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:18 am to i am dan
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I hate it for the families,
No you don't. Neither do I.
Do you feel bad every time someone with kids is sent to prison?
No. You don't even know it happens.
Don't fall for their sympathy BS.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:19 am to MusclesofBrussels
i think forum selection is their primary motivation
they've been emboldened by that win on the travel ban argument from a few months ago
they've been emboldened by that win on the travel ban argument from a few months ago
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:19 am to Toddy
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It does not help anyone when families are getting ripped apart.
No it dosnt Toddy I agree, especially when the family is ripped apart by an illegal rapist at school, or when a family is ripped apart because of their loved ones being killed by an illegal killer.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:22 am to Toddy
Toddy, I must ask. How are you so liberal and an Ole miss fan? your like a liberal walking oxymoron.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
OK, the bad-faith use of states' rights arguments by these cities is beyond palpable...also, regarding Federal funding, is not precedent already established in South Dakota v. Dole?
So question for the lawyers (SFP): any guess on how long it takes for what appears (to a layman) to be a frivolous case to get thrown out?
So question for the lawyers (SFP): any guess on how long it takes for what appears (to a layman) to be a frivolous case to get thrown out?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
their argument: trump is mean
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:24 am to Toddy
quote:And yet you are the one being hateful. Look in the mirror
I do hate Trump's hateful version of America.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:25 am to Toddy
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Now just how in the hell would that work? You're married in one state but not the next?
I'm against this idea, but they just wouldn't issue marriage licenses to same sex marriage.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:29 am to BOSCEAUX
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This is not a State's rights issue. These are individual cities. I've never heard of cities' rights.
HB-2 was created because of an ordinance in the city of Charlotte.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:29 am to Toddy
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It does not help anyone when families are getting ripped apart
So, if a mom or dad robs someone at gunpoint, should we just ignore it to keep the family together?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:36 am to udtiger
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families are getting ripped apart
Families also get screwed over when their 12 year old daughter is gang raped by illegal immigrants.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:45 am to Toddy
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Now just how in the hell would that work? You're an illegal alien in one state but not the next?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:10 am to Toddy
Funny Liberals don't care about his shite when they are with holding federal road and highway money from states that fight their socialist agenda. 
Liberals just being hypocrites again, move along nothing new to see here. BTW Trump should say FU, since the ignorant citizens of these cities are too stupid to say it to their socialist leaders.
Liberals just being hypocrites again, move along nothing new to see here. BTW Trump should say FU, since the ignorant citizens of these cities are too stupid to say it to their socialist leaders.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:13 am to Knight of Old
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K, the bad-faith use of states' rights arguments by these cities is beyond palpable...also, regarding Federal funding, is not precedent already established in South Dakota v. Dole?
So question for the lawyers (SFP): any guess on how long it takes for w
There argument is stupid. The feds are threatening to withhold funding that is part of an agreement the states have made in regards to federal la in this area. That has been held as Constitutional.
What the feds could NOT do, is say "okay we're cutting money from education because of sanctuary cities" that would be unconstitutional.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:17 am to Toddy
Where exactly does states' right fit in with receiving Federal money? Seattle wants the Feds' money but wants to be completely free legally to do as it pleases with it. Don't think that's how it works.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:24 am to Toddy
Toddy, if you were not in flagrante delicto with a certain other Ole Miss person of Fox News, and actually understood federalism and the Tenth Amendment....maybe they don't teach that kind of stuff at U of M Law..... then you would know that the City of Seattle has no standing on the issue under that provision.
Maybe the boys in Olympia could, but the fools on the Seattle City Council do not. That being said, I'm sure there is a federal judge in Seattle who has never cracked open a Con - Law book who will rule in favor of the Plaintiff in the matter and there will probably be at least 2 Appeals Court guys on the 9th who definitely never read the Constituion who will make up law only to be slapped down at SCOTUS
Maybe the boys in Olympia could, but the fools on the Seattle City Council do not. That being said, I'm sure there is a federal judge in Seattle who has never cracked open a Con - Law book who will rule in favor of the Plaintiff in the matter and there will probably be at least 2 Appeals Court guys on the 9th who definitely never read the Constituion who will make up law only to be slapped down at SCOTUS
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