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Scoop: Trump wants to do tax reform and infrastructure at the same time
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:16 pm
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The Trump administration is looking at driving tax reform and infrastructure concurrently, according to a White House source with direct knowledge.
It's a major strategic shift - infrastructure was likely going to be parked until next year - and is only possible because of last week's healthcare debacle.
President Trump feels burned by the ultra conservative House Freedom Caucus and is ready to deal with Democrats. Dangling infrastructure spending is an obvious way to buy the support of potentially dozens of Dems, meaning he wouldn't have to bargain with the hardliners.
Bill Shuster, the guy who would steer Trump's infrastructure package through the House, tells me he's optimistic Trump could get it done this year.
"It certainly changes the calculus of the timing with the defeat of healthcare," says Shuster, the chair of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, in an interview in his Capitol Hill office Monday.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:17 pm to Rakim
While I'm against the infrastructure plan, this is cunning
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:18 pm to Rakim
HFC WILL NOT support an infrastructure bill.
WILL NOT
WILL NOT
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HFC WILL NOT support an infrastructure bill.
WILL NOT
The President will not need them is more of the point. Also, Trump is going to help primary every one of those Judas's that betray him on Healthcare and Tax Reform
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HFC WILL NOT support an infrastructure bill.
Then Trump will get around them.
It just becomes a question if Pelosi and Schumer can whip the moderate democrats in line to avoid giving Trump a bipartisan win.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:20 pm to Rakim
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at the same time
Of course. What could go wrong?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:21 pm to Sentrius
My first reaction is we don't need the HFC.
My 2nd reaction was I fricking date them
My 2nd reaction was I fricking date them
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HFC WILL NOT support an infrastructure bill.
WILL NOT
Which is why he's going to court the Dems (who do support a very robust infrastructure bill), apparently in return for their support on tax reform. That way he won't have to deal so much with the Freedom Caucus.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:22 pm to Decatur
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Of course. What could go wrong?
Lowers the risk Actually of trying either by themselves.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:22 pm to Rakim
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:24 pm to Rakim
Sounds desperate for a legislative win.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:24 pm to Rakim
quote:I'm not saying it doesn't, but how exactly do you conclude this?
Lowers the risk Actually of trying either by themselves.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:26 pm to Rakim
This might be possible and might be a good idea.
When talking about healthcare, you are talking about people's lives.
The GOP wanted to take insurance away from people and that was never going to pass.
But this is pork, and politicians love pork.
He's follow the model of Reagan and grow the deficit massively and say he is conservative.
When talking about healthcare, you are talking about people's lives.
The GOP wanted to take insurance away from people and that was never going to pass.
But this is pork, and politicians love pork.
He's follow the model of Reagan and grow the deficit massively and say he is conservative.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:26 pm to The Spleen
quote:So he shouldn't do it?
Sounds desperate for a legislative win.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with some of you guys.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:27 pm to Rakim
Infrastructure is where public funding should ACTUALLY be spent.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Dat union vote becoming solid red
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HFC WILL NOT support an infrastructure bill.
WILL NOT
Who gives a frick? This is something you can get moderate Dems to support. You throw some money at fixing some bridges at districts in red states that have Democratic congressmen. You tell the HFC to go frick themselves...don't spend a dime in their districts. Let's see if they get reelected. And you don't spend a fricking dime in California and New York either. Tell Pelosi and Schumer to go frick themselves also.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:30 pm to buckeye_vol
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I'm not saying it doesn't, but how exactly do you conclude this?
Democrats need money in cities and in states. The infrastructure is a pork project that Democrats want badly. They will catch all kinds of hell if they pass on this money from Blacks in the intercity just as an example. It's a once in every other generation type of opportunity to get something real on infrastructure. Tax reform is something the Republicans need to bring home to the base. It may get continuous but the Democrat Leadership and Republican Leadership will deliver enough votes to pass something like this.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:31 pm to Sentrius
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It just becomes a question if Pelosi and Schumer can whip the moderate democrats in line to avoid giving Trump a bipartisan win.
Heitkamp and Manchin? Hell yes he can.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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So he shouldn't do it?
Sure he should, if he thinks that's the best course. I'm not as sure enough Dems will concede on his tax proposals in exchange for infrastructure, but I've been wrong before.
He'd need about 20 in the House, which is doable. Would any Senate R's defect? If so, he'd need about 10 in the Senate. That seems like a tougher get, but it's all hypothetical now without any details on either proposal.
Plus, politically speaking I think the Dems see a wounded animal with the congressional GOP and Trump after last week's health care failure. Why jump in bed and give Trump a legislative win with midterms next year? That's a cynical approach though.
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