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Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:43 am to NC_Tigah
That was the oblique ad hominem. 
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:44 am to VolcanicTiger
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only cooks following recipes. They don't come to these conclusions, they just repeat them
Isnt having others repeat the experiment to see if they get the same results part of the process?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:44 am to Larry_Hotdogs
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There was an unfathomable amount of mass concentrated in a small absolute area, according to the theory
Wut? Lol.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:52 am to ThuperThumpin
quote:"harebrained" hypotheses are a-okay ...
harebrained ideas
... AS LONG AS THEY ARE SCIENTIFICALLY QUESTIONED. i.e., as long as the Scientific Method is followed.
If OTOH there is cost rather than reward associated with such questioning, then science is a broken field.
e.g.,
• Questioning the validity of climate crisis claims is a fast track to scientific obscurity and/or total exile.
• Questioning the absurd WetMarket/BatSoup CV19 origin thesis yields similar results.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:54 am to deathvalleytiger10
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It is amusing that science relies on measurement and reason but the entire theory is based on one big miracle where everything came from nothing.
The big bang theory reminds me of a joke an old pastor told me.
One day in the future scientists will come together and tell God that he is no longer needed. They will say that they have mastered the fields of genetics and biology, that they can create new species and life and it is time to God to retire.
God will reply " I hate to hear that but lets have one last test. He reaches down into the soil and with a flick of the wrist creates an entirely new animal, never seen before".
The scientists smirk and chuckle to each other. One of them starts to reach down into the soil to create their own animal. But God tells him to STOP. "Get your own dirt".
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:56 am to ThuperThumpin
People need to understand that research is done to FURTHER our knowledge. So, basically all scientists should be studying stuff to answer questions. If scientist think they have all the answers, then there would be no need for scientist. We are so far away from this that it isn't even funny. Scientists know this and "debunking" science is their job.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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You think evolution will be “debunked”?
Maybe you missed where Lamarck and Darwins original theories just draw eye rolls now? The replacement theories are already being challenged by DNA discoveries.
Man did not evolve out of Africa
Gene expression is altered in a single lifetime
Survival of the fittest is not evolutionary, but learned behavior
DNA changes are not random
Still no fossil evidence of human evolution
DNA similarity between chimps and humans has dropped from 98.5% to 81%
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:58 am to TrueTiger
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But particular subject doesn't matter, big bang, evolution, climate change, will all eventually get their debunking.
So what is the point of this statement? You seem to be using the term debunking as pejorative. Scientific knowledge is in a state of constant revision as it should be.And just because something is revised or even proven false it doesn't mean the process getting to that conclusion is unproductive For example... Even if you dont believe in macro evolution the advent of it has lead to incredible break throughs in biology and medicine.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:00 am to Diseasefreeforall
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It's a discrepancy between two ways to measure the expansion of the universe that will likely be resolved when we get better data as there are new ways that will be used to get a measurement.
It's really amazing how far we've come in understanding the expansion since Hubble's first measurements 100 years ago.
At some point, regardless of your belief system (intelligent creation or Big Bang), you have to develop some form of blind faith. Neither intelligent creation nor Big Bang are replicable. Evolution isn't even replicable.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:01 am to TrueTiger
This is the way Science is supposed to work.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:02 am to Mo Jeaux
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You think evolution will be “debunked”?
Micro or macro?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:05 am to TrueTiger
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there is a fixed and precise sequence of events that followed the Big Bang:
*sigh*
It’s always been to our best understanding.
Do idiots not grasp how science even works??
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:07 am to PurpleSingularity
quote:There have been attempts to explain the Hubble findings. Most revolve around intergalactic distances being possibly miscalculated. The OP authors seem to discount those possibilities. They also seem to possess legitimizing credentials and field expertise.
OP is an idiot and probably shouldn’t read articles dealing with expansion, the cosmos, quantum field theory, etc.
Do you have information to the contrary, perhaps something establishing the OP as a scientifically unreasonable counterfactual?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:08 am to TrueTiger
quote:Au contraire.
You think evolution will be “debunked”?
Already has been.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:14 am to RobbBobb
quote:Oh? Link? (or should I say Missing Link?)
Man did not evolve out of Africa
quote:Survival of the fittest is not evolutionary, it is the driver of evolution.
Survival of the fittest is not evolutionary, but learned behavior
quote:DNA mutations are
DNA changes are not random
quote:Oh? another missing link?
DNA similarity between chimps and humans has dropped from 98.5% to 81%
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:15 am to NC_Tigah
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If OTOH there is cost rather than reward associated with such questioning, then science is a broken field.
Money is the great corruptor.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:16 am to NC_Tigah
Evolutionary theory will get modified over time, like most of science does, but debunked? Not likely. Same goes for the big bang.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:18 am to ThuperThumpin
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Evolution can occur within the simulation.
Hmmm
Yes I suppose so.
As the code is improved, that could be called evolution.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:41 am to TrueTiger
The scientific process of discovery involves starting with a question (How did the universe begin?) and making objective observations that may answer that question. From there, a scientific theory or hypothesis is formed that best explains the observable facts. Later, new facts may come to light that require the revising the original theory/hypothesis or discarding it completely and formulating a new hypothesis.
OTOH, religion starts with the conclusion, selects observations that may support it and discards or seeks to discredit those that are contrary.
The scientist would say to the theist, "If you wish to attribute our existence to God (or god/gods), bring us the facts that support your conclusion."
OTOH, religion starts with the conclusion, selects observations that may support it and discards or seeks to discredit those that are contrary.
The scientist would say to the theist, "If you wish to attribute our existence to God (or god/gods), bring us the facts that support your conclusion."
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