re: School Choice Will Lead to Higher Teacher Salaries--why do they oppose it?

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Why would there be 2 to 3 times the number of classrooms? The supply of students isn't going to increase.

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Because the number of schools will increase.

Think think think.

Let's use the $500K number per 30 kids. (you understand that would be 500k/30=$16,666 per kid) Let say instead of filtering that $16,666 per kid through the bureaucracy of government we simply gave it to the kid to use at any education facility available to him.

Now you see those kids and you decided to start a little schools for you and your friends or something like that. You want twenty students. You will then have $333,333 per YEAR to start your little school. SURELY you could to that.

Now that is a vary simple example but is what would happen.

Because most of them suck at their job, and they know it. And I doubt it will raise wages, but create a more rewarding work environment that acknowledges the best.

Yea.. Well when i went to catholic school in nola they had PE coaches teaching history and science classes.
Private schools are not inherently better. You get what you pay for in that case.

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SlowFlowPro

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I'm curious in a very non contentious way... Do you think there should be no licensing for teachers?

This is my 3rd year teaching without a license. I'll have a master's next month and will become eligible for certification, but still. Teaching is mostly on the job training, imo. I don't even know if a bachelor's is necessary to be honest. Maturity, patience, and a desire to learn are really the most important qualities of a teacher.

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Because the number of schools will increase.

Think think think.

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But the supply is static, and the barriers (teachers, accreditation, buildings and space) would limit this to some degree.

And if there are fewer students per school, and certain resources (building and maintenance costs) are stable, then it's aszz profitable investment.

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power of the union and not the interest of their dues paying members?We know their interest is not education quality.

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Because the incompetent will be weeded out.

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the "course work" that i knew was being done by education majors was a joke. the certification racket is there to protect the under qualified people going into teaching. frick having a history major teaching history or a biology major teaching biology, here's Kaylee Educationmajor to do both.

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Everyone will leave bad schools in bad neighborhood abandoned, and nicer schools in nicer parts of town will grow nicer.

It will allow people to self-segregate even more.

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I agree. So where's the problem with that?

(No directing that at you, Eli. Just speaking in general terms)

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Everyone will leave bad schools in bad neighborhood abandoned, and nicer schools in nicer parts of town will grow nicer. It will allow people to self-segregate even more. Not that I disagree with school choice, but those are the reasons.

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As soon as this happens (because its already happening in my neck of the woods) the government will step in and desegregate the schools. This is happening in the Tangipahoa parish where I teach in. Our schools have developed like this: The city schools are mostly AA and are failing and the rural schools are mostly white and are better. So what they do is allow minorities to go to what ever they school they want. This is call migrant to minority.

In return what will happen with school choice, when the rich white schools do well and the public mostly AA schools Fail the government will step in and allow the minority students go to the rich white school for free (vouchers) and desegregate it.

This is already happening at the school I teach at. we are getting more and more AA students because of the ethnicity of our school and some are even done by court order. In return, our scores are dropping more and more every year. And its not the AA student who are in our school zone that are performing bad on their scores, its the ones being shipped in who are used to a school culture that doesn't breed success.

The student that this will hurt the worst is the poor non minority student who want have the choice to go to the "good school" because he or she is neither a minority or rich.

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