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Rush is explaining his off record conversation he had with a pollster right now.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:20 pm
He said the polls are how they are because pollsters are purposely seeking out Registered Republicans in the suburbs who hate Trump to interview, and oversampling them, that way they can purposely say that their party ID is not skewed toward the democrats.
This was told to him by a pollster who wishes to remain anonymous.
This was told to him by a pollster who wishes to remain anonymous.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:22 pm to RICHIE APRILE
This makes a ton of sense
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:24 pm to RICHIE APRILE
Then this is worse than 2016 when they were ignorant of who Trump voters were, now they're seeking out data points that provide confirmation bias.
They're gonna get roasted worse than they did after 2016.
They're gonna get roasted worse than they did after 2016.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:25 pm to RICHIE APRILE
Saying the polls are favoring Biden because a bunch of registered Republicans are voting Biden is worrisome
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:27 pm to ibldprplgld
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provide confirmation bias.
Polls are meant to shape public opinion, not reflect it. They are corrupt af
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:27 pm to Redleg Guy
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Saying the polls are favoring Biden because a bunch of registered Republicans are voting Biden is worrisome
It's the cuck Republican types who like the Kasich's and Romneys. I think these idiots make up about 5-10% of Registered Republicans.
There are far more democrat crossovers than Republican crossovers.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:27 pm to Redleg Guy
How the hell do they know if someone is disgruntled with Trump? Sounds good but I do nott see how they obtain that information beforehand.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:27 pm to RICHIE APRILE
I heard it and it doesn't explain why pollsters want to be wrong.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:28 pm to Redleg Guy
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Saying the polls are favoring Biden because a bunch of registered Republicans are voting Biden is worrisome
not a "bunch"
They are lying to make the real 5% look like 10% or 15%
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:28 pm to ibldprplgld
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2016 when they were ignorant of who Trump voters were
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:29 pm to RICHIE APRILE
But why? Why do they do that? How does it help Biden for Democrats to think he’s doing better than he actually is? Wouldn’t that make democrats more complacent and less likely to go the extra mile to show up on Election Day?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:29 pm to Redleg Guy
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Saying the polls are favoring Biden because a bunch of registered Republicans are voting Biden is worrisome
Setting up a talking point to justify the results after mail in ballots harvested in historically republican districts suddenly go for Biden.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:29 pm to RICHIE APRILE
If polls are way off 2 presidential elections in a row, why would anyone ever trust them going forward? It seems like they are shooting them selves in the foot.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:30 pm to NineLineBind
The 2012 polls actually underestimated Obama.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:30 pm to RICHIE APRILE
RICHIE, you and I posted this topic at the same time. I like your take too, here's mine:
Rush once again delivering awesomeness - why Biden polling well?
Rush once again delivering awesomeness - why Biden polling well?
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Conversation he had with a pollster revealed that:
- suburban women (traditionally conservative) being over-sampled
- rural conservatives being under-sampled
- rural "Reagan Democrats" under-sampled
The result...
1) they can claim the amount of Republicans being sampled is "correct" when in fact, they are over-sampling the anti-Trump electorate
2) added bonus.. they get to boost the "anti-Trump Republicans" in a sub-set of the results
I (me, not Rush) am one to be skeptical of the polls, but not as dismissive of them as some of y'all. But I can tell you that seeing Biden +5 in Ohio is all but laughable, and very-much makes me believe the above is true, because:
- Trump won Ohio in '16 by 9.5
- Obama won Ohio in '12 by 1.5
If you believe Biden has swung Ohio by 14.5 points in four years then I have a bridge to sell you!
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:31 pm to Jon Ham
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How does it help Biden for Democrats to think he’s doing better than he actually is?
Well, the answer to that is easy. It's fundraising. Big donors don't want to throw money down the toilet. They won't donate unless they are confident Biden will win and pay them back.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:32 pm to RICHIE APRILE
quote:and he also said they are staying away from polling rural democrats that support Trump.
He said the polls are how they are because pollsters are purposely seeking out Registered Republicans in the suburbs who hate Trump to interview, and oversampling them, that way they can purposely say that their party ID is not skewed toward the democrats
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:33 pm to RICHIE APRILE
You still in hiding from the big mean bernie bro?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:35 pm to ibldprplgld
They don’t care if they get roasted as long as the suckers keep paying money.
Their problem is if they completely overplay things and get caught, like Zogby polling the Arkansas Senate race about 10 years ago. Zogby predicted sitting incumbent Blanche Lincoln would lose to a Dem primary challenger, so the Kos Kids threw money at the challenger. She won but was so depleted by the experience, financially and politically, that she got skull drug in the general election.
Their problem is if they completely overplay things and get caught, like Zogby polling the Arkansas Senate race about 10 years ago. Zogby predicted sitting incumbent Blanche Lincoln would lose to a Dem primary challenger, so the Kos Kids threw money at the challenger. She won but was so depleted by the experience, financially and politically, that she got skull drug in the general election.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:35 pm to RICHIE APRILE
What do they say about Grand Juries and ham sandwiches? It's the same with Pollsters and polls. Everything is tailored to produce a result conducive with the expectation of the client.
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