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re: Rittenhouse day 9-Motions and jury instructions

Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:26 am to
Once the jury gets it, could be a few minutes to a few days.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:27 am to
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Any important developments this morning?
jury isn't in today. this is just more weaseling by prosecution to get SOMETHING to stick to kyle.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:27 am to
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I do think the jury might be more inclined to "split the difference" with lesser charges though to protect their own skin.


And that is why they are trying this.

Binger even made a comment about it being political yesterday.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:27 am to
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Allowing lesser charges seems like bullshite.


The defense prepared their defense around the original charges.


I've never understood it either, how you do you put up a defense for a charges you don't know about? Also, if I am on jury and they can't even determine what the charges should be... that to me means the prosecution has doubt.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:27 am to
Rittenhouse didn't miss with any shots towards Rosenbaum, right? If so then how could there be reckless endangerment of McGinnis?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:28 am to
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Do we know when a verdict is going to be reached?


Next Tuesday at the absolute earliest.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:29 am to
WTF? "Steel jacketed"? GTFO of here. Reversible error if this goes forward.

FMJ means, in almost every circumstance, COPPER. Which is about 95% of ammo and virtually 100% of military ammo.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:31 am to
This is all embarrassing. Only bald Rolex lawyer is earning his pay.
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:32 am to
Wtf was the judge saying about emails and doorsteps?
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:32 am to
The reckless endangerment charge is the most ridiculous one. I understand you can defend yourself and still endanger others who are not attacking you but that is not even close to what happened here.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:32 am to
Kyle's non-bald lawyer has looked pretty shitty this entire time. Unless he's the one putting together the arguments, he really hasn't helped.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:33 am to
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Wtf was the judge saying about emails and doorsteps?




He's a very experienced judge who has sleep walked through this trial.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:33 am to
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Wtf was the judge saying about emails and doorsteps?

He isn't deciding on that reckless endangerment charge today and will think about it. He's "biased" towards allowing it but when he emails the lawyers tomorrow bout what the final charges and the jury instructions are it may not be included.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19380 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:34 am to
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Kyle's non-bald lawyer has looked pretty shitty this entire time. Unless he's the one putting together the arguments, he really hasn't helped.

I've seen that Richards is great at the facts but poor at the other aspects of being a trial lawyer.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:34 am to
Ridiculous. I think the jury is going to sell this kid down the river on lesser charges to save their own skin.

Just given the judge, I'm assuming he's going to allow the jury to make a decision, and if they materially affect this kids life (Felony or more than 6 months guaranteed sentencing) I think he steps in and directs a verdict.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 10:36 am
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:34 am to
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He's "biased" towards allowing it but when he emails the lawyers tomorrow bout what the final charges and the jury instructions are it may not be included.



Well he's gonna frick him by allowing that. This is absurd
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50636 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:35 am to
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He isn't deciding on that reckless endangerment charge today and will think about it. He's "biased" towards allowing it but when he emails the lawyers tomorrow bout what the final charges and the jury instructions are it may not be included.


Would be a travesty of justice for him to get a reckless endangerment charge. Just pure nonsense.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19380 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:36 am to
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Would be a travesty of justice for him to get a reckless endangerment charge. Just pure nonsense.

I completely agree but I think the judge also thinks it's a ridiculous argument and the jury will find him not guilty so he doesn't have to "be political" in the eyes of the media and the left.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1916 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:36 am to
So it’s ok to defend yourself, but jsut don’t miss because if you do we will instead charge you with reckless endangerment
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:37 am to
Fatlock is just a bad lawyer. The case is bad which isn't helping him, but he's just bad.

Kenosha isn't getting its money's worth.
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