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re: Ringling Brothers Circus will shut down
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:13 am to Esquire
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:13 am to Esquire
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I won't lose sleep over this. You don't have to be an animal activist to feel empathy for the shitty conditions circus animals live in. Especially the elephants.
I guess you aren't aware than animal rights groups paid $25.0m to settle lawsuits arising from RB's libel suits over the false claims of animal abuse.
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:16 am to Esquire
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I don't need to read an article to know that no elephant wants to be driven around the country in a trailer
One of the units travels by train and the cars that carried the elephants were not close to being "trailers."
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:21 am to Ramblin Wreck
This saddens me. My family used to hit up the circus every year 
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:29 am to chinhoyang
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I guess you aren't aware than animal rights groups paid $25.0m to settle lawsuits arising from RB's libel suits over the false claims of animal abuse.
You and I don't know a thing about elephants, so we'll start at that.
I also will say that there is a big difference between what the law allows you to do treating an animal and what we probably should be doing.
So the question is, while the law allows you to transport elephants by train, do tricks etc, is the elephant truly not distressed by that?
Then you get to how it was trained in the first place, in which case you hope it wasn't through the phajaan or similar practices.
I think it should be looked at a lot more academically than most discussions are carried out.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:43 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:those elephants are probably grateful they're not getting poached...
So the question is, while the law allows you to transport elephants by train, do tricks etc, is the elephant truly not distressed by that?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:48 am to chalmetteowl
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those elephants are probably grateful they're not getting poached...
"At least they aren't dead!" Is such a brutally terrible argument
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:53 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:damn. frick the left for ruining such a historical mainstay of entertainment
Ringling Brothers Circus will shut down
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:54 am to Ramblin Wreck
What pisses me off are the "PETA wins" articles on the web.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:59 am to Ramblin Wreck
This is a victory for the weak liberals, who basically forced an American institution to shout down bue to weak peta pressures and and animal rights wacko's. Don't think that they will just move on to something else the average American loves and start putting pressure on them until the close. I wonder how stupid peta will feel when the circus animals are euthanized.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:10 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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"At least they aren't dead!" Is such a brutally terrible argument
it's a real problem in the wild, and RB B&B is not in the business of letting valuable animals suffer. they are getting the best of care and living conditions
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:20 pm to chalmetteowl
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it's a real problem in the wild
No kidding. That doesn't negate the effort to improve conditions outside of the wild. In fact, it has no bearing on the issue at all.
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RB B&B is not in the business of letting valuable animals suffer.
I'm not saying they are, but I'd also say there seems to be a healthy debate as what constitutes adequate care of elephants.
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they are getting the best of care and living conditions
Again, debatable. I would think some elephant experts argue that anything less than a mostly free roaming sanctuary or similar situation necessarily denies one from claiming the "best" care.
That's not to say the circus is evil if they end up being wrong on this issue. We're all evolving in our knowledge and practices.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:22 pm to chinhoyang
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One of the units travels by train and the cars that carried the elephants were not close to being "trailers."
How similar are they to the units they travel by in the wild?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:25 pm to Ramblin Wreck
A lot of Trump supporters will soon be unemployed.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:41 pm to ellishughtiger
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A lot of Trump supporters will soon be unemployed.
NOPE! The circus employees will be given jobs in the death camps. Remember, all of us Trump supporters are Nazis.
We are building camps for you liberals starting next Friday at noon. That is why the circus is staying open until May. Give us time to get the camps up and running so no one misses a paycheck.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:43 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I just purchased tickets for the February show in Atlanta.
See the Big Top one last time....
See the Big Top one last time....
Posted on 1/15/17 at 1:07 pm to SavageOrangeJug
You sound like the kind of guy that thinks Applebees is fancy.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 1:50 pm to ellishughtiger
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You sound like the kind of guy that thinks Applebees is fancy.
Don't they make wear shoes to come inside and eat?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:45 pm to AustinTigr
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I give him a look that says, "I WILL F*CKING END YOU IF YOU UTTER ONE MORE SOUND TO MY CHILD!" He correctly reads my face and walks off.
good for you - would have been my exact same reaction
frick those assholes that ruined the circus & forced them to shut down
THIS is a prime example of why so many of us on the right continue to say that idiot liberals hate America...
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:48 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I have been to the circus many times over my 54 years.
I won't be sad to see it go. in the last 15+ years it has become a song and dance from start to finish of telling you how great it is to be at the circus.
It has become unbearable.
I won't be sad to see it go. in the last 15+ years it has become a song and dance from start to finish of telling you how great it is to be at the circus.
It has become unbearable.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:54 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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If you've read the articles and seen the news the main reason they are shutting down is low ticket sales. Sounds like the market at work so you conservatives shouldn't be mad.
and the main reason for this year's low ticket sales?
the fact that the elephants are gone
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