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re: Red Line Alert! Mueller expands probe into Trump business transactions

Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:51 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:51 am to
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There is no mortal who could survive a well funded, open ended, goal oriented investigation without finding something/someone that supports the original 'reason' for the investigation.


Which is why Obama smartly never allowed one.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48663 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
Whole lot of presumption in your posts. Presumption is not evidence...unfortunately for you.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49032 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
From the article:

quote:

. The information was provided by someone familiar with the developing inquiry but not authorized to speak publicly.


So - criminal charges on this leaker?

quote:

FBI agents had already been gathering information about Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, according to two people with knowledge of that probe. Prosecutors hadn’t yet begun presenting evidence to a grand jury. Trump fired Bharara in March.


I seem to remember tons of threads on here about grand jury indictments coming down. Fake news.

quote:

As part of their investigation, Mueller’s team has issued subpoenas to banks and filed requests for bank records to foreign lenders under mutual legal assistance treaties, according to two of the people familiar with the matter.


Seems reasonable.

I don't understand the issue with any of this honestly.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9423 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
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The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds.


fire Mueller. Do it!!
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
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Comey was investigating Trump?


Probably at least indirectly through associates. I can promise you there was some spying going on for sure.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:52 am to
Wow! You got him now!

This is gonna force him to withdraw from the Republican primaries!

Oh, wait...

I mean, this is going to keep him from being elected!

Oh, wait...

This is going to keep him being inaugurated!

Oh, wait...

This will keep him from lasting even one month as President!

Oh, wait...

But, you really got him this time!!!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:53 am to
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Trump told us he had no business dealings in Russia or with Russians


Not while sanctions, I mean the adoption ban is in place.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:54 am to
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I can promise you there was some spying going on for sure.
With a sprinkling of ever growing Obama surrogates unmasking citizens.
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:54 am to
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How is this expanding the probe. They are looking for any business relationship and money exchanges in the financials...How is this not a normal probe?

I agree with what your saying .
My analysis is that this is similar to the Comey-Hillary "re-opening ".
They knew false information was going to come out that wouldve destroyed public trust, narrative etc.
So they came out in front of it
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:54 am to
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according to a person familiar with the probe.


So it's just made up. Fake News
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:55 am to
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Are you seriously asserting that Russians buying property from trump is a crisis causing event?


Depends of the purpose of the purchase. Purchasing and selling real estate is a common vehicle for money laundering.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:56 am to
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Comey was investigating Trump?
I mean, Trump said on national television that Comey's Russia investigation was part of his consideration in firing Comey
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:56 am to
Exactly. He has no dealings with them but holds paegants there, buys property there, has meetings with rhwm, is in videos with them
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42774 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:57 am to
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Are you seriously asserting that Russians buying property from trump is a crisis causing event?

It is a crisis for him and his ilk -

to them, the only people capable of properly leading a nation of 300 million people are those who have never done anything in their lives except make rhetorical flourishes which promise that someone else will pay for every desire you have. They only want people in control who have never owned anything except dirt on their opponents - those whose only accomplishments are tearing down opponents' character and destroying their lives - those who can lie without consequence.

To this group of people, a person who has led a normal life is the worst possible candidate for public office. And in fact, the 'rules' of 'how to succeed' are completely biased against normalcy and in favor of 'promise them anything' and take care to preserve 'plausible deniability.'

NORMAL people don't think that way - so when a progressive-advocate gets on the trail of a NORMAL person, they can find any 'violation' of their arcane 'rules' they want.

This is the swamp that needs draining - and salted so it cannot sprout again.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33950 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:01 am to
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Can this be the official resignation watch thread ?


Works for me
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:02 am to
Dang could Wilbur Ross be caught up in some of this?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23818 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:02 am to
Objectively, you can't investigate ties and loyalties with Russia without looking at payments and financial dealings. Following the money is typically the most effective route.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:03 am to
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Nothing will come of this.

I feel quite confident that we will get at least 10 arrests out of this probe. It is doubtful that trump will be arrested though. Nor will he be impeached.

And while he likely has engaged in money laundering, just b.c what real estate developer doesn't do it? It is very difficult to nail somone on money laundering. trump is no different.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:03 am to
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least 10 arrests
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:04 am to
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Dang could Wilbur Ross be caught up in some of this?


wilbur ross is definitely caught up in this.
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