re: Red Line Alert! Mueller expands probe into Trump business transactions

Posted by LSU1NSEC

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:23 am to tigerinDC09

Posted by 9th life

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:25 am to Yak

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Money laundering, I'd assume

I would be lying if I said I understood how money laundering works, so please tolerate my ignorance.

Say I had an apartment in Trump Tower, and it was purchased in cash by a Russian. How would that be laundering money? At face value, that doesn't seem to be incriminating of anything. What more information need to be known in order for it to be considered laundering? the origin of the money?

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Posted by LSURussian

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:25 am to LSU1NSEC

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assuming

Posted by NC_Tigah

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:26 am to SSpaniel

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Mr. Anonymous Sources. That guy really gets around, doesn't he?

and so far has been wrong in every instance involving Muller.

Posted by the808bass

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:30 am to 9th life

Trump would have had to have known that the money being used to purchase the real estate was illegally obtained.

Posted by Cruiserhog

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:32 am to SDVTiger

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Rightfully so

The entirety of whats wrong with Trumpkins summed up in a response post by one of their own

Posted by KiwiHead

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:44 am to 9th life

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What more information need to be known in order for it to be considered laundering?

It's a hard conviction to get especially for the institution that effectively does the laundering. In this case it all would hinge on Trump's association with Bayrock and Felix Sater.

1) Mueller would have to prove that Bayrock was essentially totally funded by Russian mob money....not necessarily oligarch . Just because some of the Russians are gazillionaires does not necessarily mean they are totally corrupt

2) Trump would have to know that Bayrock is acting as a conduit for Russian mob money.

3) Trump would have to inflate market value ( apparently he sold the unit and the property within market rates).

4) You would have to show under the table payments in cash....or something else of value and then post it to a real estate transaction. If there is a paper trail showing wire transfers of the exact amount of the purchases between Trump's bank and the Russian buyers bank and assuming they are two different banks, then Trump is totally in the clear. If there is a wide discrepancy then there is reason to look further.

5) Was Trump Bayrock's only client? If not , then advantage Trump.

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Posted by gthog61

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:47 am to KiwiHead

So meuller is going to move aggressively to cut off these leaks given how illegal they are, right?

Posted by tokenBoiler

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:50 am to Haughton99

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Who do you think should do the investigation?

Trey Gowdy.

Posted by Magician2

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:54 am to AUbused

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Can you link me please?

I'm sure you can read the first 2 pages of this thread on your own.

I was insinuating that everyone in this thread is now talking about anything criminal other than the what the supposed investigation was opened for.

Posted by JuiceTerry

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:57 am to gthog61

We love our leakers, don't we folks?

Posted by JuiceTerry

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:58 am to tokenBoiler

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Trey Gowdy.

0fer?

Posted by 9th life

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:04 pm to the808bass

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Trump would have had to have known that the money being used to purchase the real estate was illegally obtained.

That makes sense. Appreciate it.

Posted by cbdman

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:14 pm to tigerinDC09

The transactions discussed are wayyy beyond the federal statute of limitations.

Posted by 9th life

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:15 pm to KiwiHead

Interesting stuff. thanks.

The scenario I described in my previous post occurred with our apartment in Trump Tower (central park) around 2010-11. The buyer was Russian and paid cash. As I recall, we didn't do much beyond inform the building mgr we were interested in selling: he was lined up by the building, and essentially all we had to do was say yes and go to closing. I am not implying that our experience was money laundering.

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Posted by Seldom Seen

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:16 pm to tigerinDC09

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Red Line Alert! Mueller expands probe into Trump business transactions

TRUMP needs to just go ahead and shut down this government funded deep state witch hunt.

Posted by LSURussian

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:18 pm to 9th life

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The buyer was Russian and paid cash.

Did you complete and file the federally required paperwork involving large cash amounts when you deposited the cash to your bank account? Your bank should have required you to do that before they accepted the cash deposit.

Posted by RonLaFlamme

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Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:19 pm to tigerinDC09

So...the NYT asked Trump in their interview with him yesterday if expanding the probe into his financial dealings would be a red line for him....and I'm sure that question just came out of nowhere.

So much for Mueller running a leak proof ship.