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Question regarding the draft
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:27 pm
I'm curious; say you were to accept a position/go to school/etc. overseas and there was a draft held in the states. Are you obligated to return or because you're living out of country are you not included? I would assume if you didn't return it would be viewed as dodging the draft. I'm sure they wouldn't have you extradited but likely have repercussions upon your return or when you go to renew your visa. Was talking about it and was unsure as to what would happen.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:29 pm to BigOrangeVols
If you're in this type of educational/socioeconomic position, you probably wouldn't be drafted anyway.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:33 pm to BigOrangeVols
If you are registered with Selective Service and you're in college and you get selected , you can only defer until the end of the semester (I think)
When I was at LSU, my "plan" if a draft had occurred was to join the Air Force ROTC or simply enlist in the Air Force or Navy.
When I was at LSU, my "plan" if a draft had occurred was to join the Air Force ROTC or simply enlist in the Air Force or Navy.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:43 pm to crazycubes
I think you can defer until the end of the year if you are supposed to graduate that year.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:49 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I didn't realize education had an impact on whether or not you were drafted. Always figured it was a lottery-type scenario.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:51 pm to BigOrangeVols
quote:There's nothing stopping you from pleading a hardship, but unless you'd renounced your citizenship the same rules and exemptions would apply to you overseas.
Are you obligated to return or because you're living out of country are you not included?
For guys our age it's really kind of extraordinary to think about the prospect of randomly being plucked out of your life and forced to join the military for a year or two. Like watching some of the older shows and movies where friends were coking and joking/worried about who would be the next to go.
Gotta be crazy. I honestly hope we never go back to that.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:42 pm to Navytiger74
First time I voted was for Ford because Nixon ended the draft.
I was one of few that thought that way. Ford should have used it as he campaigned but did not.
I also shook Jimmy's hand the day he got elected. Only person in Plains that day voted for Ford I bet.
I was one of few that thought that way. Ford should have used it as he campaigned but did not.
I also shook Jimmy's hand the day he got elected. Only person in Plains that day voted for Ford I bet.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:49 pm to BigOrangeVols
quote:During the '60s you could avoid the draft by being in college (one of several injustices in the draft system of the time). In 1968 the exemption for grad school was dropped, and this was a major reason for the increase in anti-war protests that year.
I didn't realize education had an impact on whether or not you were drafted. Always figured it was a lottery-type scenario.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:51 pm to crazycubes
My plan was also to join the Air Force, and I came very close. My class was the last one drafted in the early 70's. My Draft lottery number was 47. Nixon stopped the war and draft right before they got to me. There was a time that being in college would get you either deferred or off. However, that a-hole LBJ ended that during the latter part of his administration. If an actual draft were to be instituted, I would imagine new rules would be written for its conduct and conscription given that we are fighting in a different world than when we were in Viet Nam. Up to this point, the all volunteer army seems to be working and as long as the economy limps along, it will.
To respond to another poster's question, yes we did a lottery for a given birth year. It would be done in Congress and was nationally televised. We all skipped classes that day and held a draft party in my dorm room while we watched.
To respond to another poster's question, yes we did a lottery for a given birth year. It would be done in Congress and was nationally televised. We all skipped classes that day and held a draft party in my dorm room while we watched.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:54 pm to BigOrangeVols
This fellow was concerned about the draft so he enlisted.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:57 pm to TheFolker
Ss long as you are in school making grades and taking 12 or more hours they wint call you up. When you graduate,
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:00 pm to BigOrangeVols
My personal opinion would be to only draft LBGTQ people.
They "fought" so hard to serve openly in the military so we should oblige them by making sure they serve.
They "fought" so hard to serve openly in the military so we should oblige them by making sure they serve.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:04 pm to CelticDog
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Ss long as you are in school making grades and taking 12 or more hours they wint call you up. When you graduate,
That was then and it got changed in midstream. When the draft went down, the framework went with it. To actually institute another draft, a more applicable framework 1would have to be developed and established. That said, I don't see another draft in my lifetime unless there is absolutely no other choice (in my case, I am way too old now).
However, if we all get into a nuclear pissing contest with each other, there won't be a need for a draft as the war will be over with in little more than a few hours.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:08 pm to BigOrangeVols
Do we actually need the amount of boots on the ground as we did in previous wars? Seems like we can do most the fighting without that large of an actual manned force.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:18 am to Rossberg02
Depends on objectives.
I thought we should have draft for bush ii's middle east wars. No 3rd deployment. No 2nd deploy for reserves.
No deferments. Random numbers. Well find something for you to do.
I thought we should have draft for bush ii's middle east wars. No 3rd deployment. No 2nd deploy for reserves.
No deferments. Random numbers. Well find something for you to do.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 7:19 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:34 am to BigOrangeVols
Jesus, take a walk around this weekend and look at the potential draft stock.
Half of them are fatbody, fedora-wearing social rejects who still live with their parents.
Half of them are fatbody, fedora-wearing social rejects who still live with their parents.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:46 am to Crimson Wraith
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This fellow was concerned about the draft so he enlisted.
My brother graduated in '68. His number was 5 so in '66 he made the choice to stay in ROTC for the full four years instead of the two required two years of ROTC. Went to helicopter school in Ft. Rucker, stayed in the Army for 12 years, eventually got a job as a pilot for about 22 years with AA.
He said it wasn't his life's dream but he's glad it worked out the way it did.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:51 am to crazycubes
thatd be my plan as well, try not to end up on the front line.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:54 am to I B Freeman
quote:The frick?
First time I voted was for Ford because Nixon ended the draft.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:56 am to damnedoldtigah
quote:
That was then and it got changed in midstream. When the draft went down, the framework went with it. To actually institute another draft, a more applicable framework 1would have to be developed and established. That said, I don't see another draft in my lifetime unless there is absolutely no other choice (in my case, I am way too old now).
However, if we all get into a nuclear pissing contest with each other, there won't be a need for a draft as the war will be over with in little more than a few hours.
The only way to do it and it have any positive effect is to have no exepmtions to service whatsoever...no health reason, no conscientious objection, no ROTC...nothing.
The Military's worst nightmare is a conscripted force....dealing with all of those pissed of frickers is a nightmare scenario....hell dealing with the huge number who realize they made a huge fricking mistake volunteering is enough to drive most people insane...
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