re: Powel Shooting footage

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There was no threat of attack, he walked up to them with a weapon.

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So you think he was just taking a stroll with a butter knife ??

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Assuming things, instead of trying to deescalate, leaves people dead.

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deescalation is a two way street...

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no actual display of a tangible threat.

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Good god, man. You post some reasonable points. But you always manage to just dive into the deep end in some way in each of these posts ITT.

Ok TUba

So your saying the guy's plan was carried out or failed?

if you had to have a deadly weapon before using deadly force, you'd have (think about it)

a LOT MORE dead cops

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It becomes excessive when they shot him for simply approaching. It's even more excessive that both officers shoot multiple rounds. The final nail in the excessive coffin is shooting him after he's incapacitated and already on the ground. You've been absolutely hanging on to my use of the word murder, as if it means anything tangible. I used the word murder to describe a killing I feel was absolutely unjust, not the textbook definition that you want to cling to, so I apologize for that. If he had actually lunged at them, made an attempt to harm them, and they shot him twice and he died...well okay, that's REASONABLE. What unfolds in the video is absolutely not reasonable.

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You are an idiot. The guy was less than 20 feet away, holding a knife, obviously unstable, closing fast and the cops had less than 1 second to make a decision. If you wouldn't have made the same decision with someone closing in on you like that, or closing in on your friend, you don't respect yourself.

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He didn't even lunge with the weapon, or display it ~very~ aggressively at all.

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How does one display a knife "very aggressively"?

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He approached, yelled shoot me, and they shot him. So many different paths they could have taken so that no one lost their lives that day, but no, they chose the path involving nine bullets and no actual display of a tangible threat.

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Acting irrationally, yelling, taunting, and walking towards them whilst wielding a knife definitely fits the criteria for aggressive and threatening behavior.

The cops should have chosen a different path? I don't feel like they had any choice in the situation, aside from just not responding to the call.

The fault lies entirely on the dumb frick who got shot. His own choices led to the outcome. He had many different paths he could have taken that day. Namely, he could have chosen to not be the worthless piece of shite who created the whole situation.

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You don't do that to any person ever.

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FIFY

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Here's my litmus test: if a person could shoot another person in the given situation, a cop can. If man is approaching a person with a knife saying "shoot me MF," I'm reasonably certain they wouldn't be prosecuted for shooting them. Cops can't have less rights than a civilian.

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Your litmus test is the opposite of mine. I hold cops to a high standard than I do non-cops, not a lower standard. For example, if a homeowner caught someone breaking into the house, I would give him/her carte blanche to fire away regardless of whether or not the intruder has a weapon. However, if a cop catches someone breaking into a home, I think it would be wrong for him/her to shoot the intruder if he/she is unarmed.