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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:53 pm to TN Bhoy
Dammit, don't you know by now not to question our maker. He gave us marijuana, he gave us the coca plant for cocaine, he gave us the poppy plant for heroin & opioids.
There's really only one answer for this. God liked to party!!!
There's really only one answer for this. God liked to party!!!
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:03 pm to taylork37
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So if you are young and dumb, which most of us are at some point, according to the CC, you are screwed the rest of your life.
This answer is way to over-simplified.
huh?
In your mind a young and dumb catholic would ignore the Catholic teachings and engage in pre-marital sex...yet would be unwilling to ignore the teachings on birth control?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:04 pm to Cosmo
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Tough to argue with his sentiments though many on here will Im sure.
Likely do agree with his sentiments, but sentiments do not make good law.
He is saying that things that are bad for us should be illegal. The church and politicians are very similar in that they wish to legislate things that they believe are wrong.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:10 pm to dnm3305
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And why should anybody care, feel the need to voice their opinion on, or control who I'm fricking?
What?
It's a religious belief system. That's kind of how it works.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:10 pm to taylork37
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This answer is way to over-simplified.
No, it's not.
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So if you are young and dumb, which most of us are at some point, according to the CC, you are screwed the rest of your life.
?????
What are you talking about?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:18 pm to TN Bhoy
Pope Francis is an authoritarian who has no respect for individual liberties, social nor fiscal.
Instead of doing his job and persuading people to follow Christian values and morals he constantly advocates government force in order to impose his personal will on others.
Instead of doing his job and persuading people to follow Christian values and morals he constantly advocates government force in order to impose his personal will on others.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:21 pm to TN Bhoy
So they're removing wine from the sacrament, right?
Oh, and is he going to crusade against coffee too? Advil? Nyquil?
Zero tolerance is idiotic.
Oh, and is he going to crusade against coffee too? Advil? Nyquil?
Zero tolerance is idiotic.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:22 pm to Zipfer2022
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Pope Francis is an authoritarian who has no respect for individual liberties, social nor fiscal.
Instead of doing his job and persuading people to follow Christian values and morals he constantly advocates government force in order to impose his personal will on others.
Hmmmm.....I see
Could you provide an example of Pope Francis actually forcing anyone to do anything?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:29 pm to TN Bhoy
Socialist Pope needs to mind his own business.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:58 pm to TN Bhoy
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No to every type of drug use.
So bye, bye church wine?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:00 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:Not a fan of freedom apparently.
Pope condemns in clear terms legalisation of "recreational drugs"
Oh well.
I condemn jailing people for their stupid recreational decisions.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:01 pm to ShortyRob
Must've bumped his fricking head.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:03 pm to Jcorye1
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So they're removing wine from the sacrament, right?
Nah, its not even wine anymore at that point. Its straight Jesus juice.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:06 pm to TN Bhoy
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Attempts, however limited, to legalize so-called “recreational drugs”, are not only highly questionable from a legislative standpoint, but they fail to produce the desired effects.
I guess he's never visited Portugal.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:25 pm to UGATiger26
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Could you provide an example of Pope Francis actually forcing anyone to do anything?
I never said he forced people to do anything, but he constantly uses his power and influence to promote big government in every way. He is openly anti-capitalist this is not a big secret.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:27 pm to Zipfer2022
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but he constantly uses his power and influence to promote big government in every way. He is openly anti-capitalist this is not a big secret.
He's a Jesuit. It's what they do.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:28 pm to TN Bhoy
Really, a religious leader saying drugs are bad. 
No shite, I bet next week he's going to come out against abortion, too! I disagree on his stance on legalization as well as his claims that legalization would not help the problem. I agree with his stance that people should say no to drugs, but I believe that they should have the option to make that decision for themselves. I will always say no, but that doesn't mean I care if others do.
No shite, I bet next week he's going to come out against abortion, too! I disagree on his stance on legalization as well as his claims that legalization would not help the problem. I agree with his stance that people should say no to drugs, but I believe that they should have the option to make that decision for themselves. I will always say no, but that doesn't mean I care if others do.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:39 pm to Antonio Moss
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So bye, bye church wine?
Hey look a straw man argument.
First, if you read the entire quote, he specifically mentions alcohol abuse as well.
Second, any good Catholic will tell you that no one drinks wine at church. And for the non believers, the wine ingested is nothing more than a sip.
A sip of any alcohol beverage is far from any type of alcohol abuse.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:47 pm to Bmath
This is all he says in regards to alcohol:
He is not calling for the prohibition of alcohol - a drug - only warning against its abuse. Why, then, can that same position not be taken for other drugs? It seems like his position is either incomplete or hypocritical.
Furthermore, why rely on the State to advance these initiatives given the poor results of drug prohibition?
There are certain things I like about Pope Francis but his consistent commingling of Church position with State enforcement is not one of them.
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If we say “yes” to all these things, there will be no room for illicit drugs, for alcohol abuse, for other forms of addiction.
He is not calling for the prohibition of alcohol - a drug - only warning against its abuse. Why, then, can that same position not be taken for other drugs? It seems like his position is either incomplete or hypocritical.
Furthermore, why rely on the State to advance these initiatives given the poor results of drug prohibition?
There are certain things I like about Pope Francis but his consistent commingling of Church position with State enforcement is not one of them.
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