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Paul Krugman: Paul Ryan is the biggest con man in Washington not Donald Trump

Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:24 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33922 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:24 am
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Many people are horrified, and rightly so, by what passes for leadership in today’s Washington. And it’s important to keep the horror of our political situation up front, to keep highlighting the lies, the cruelty, the bad judgment. We must never normalize the state we’re in.

At the same time, however, we should be asking ourselves how the people running our government came to wield such power. How, in particular, did a man whose fraudulence, lack of concern for those he claims to care about and lack of policy coherence should have been obvious to everyone nonetheless manage to win over so many gullible souls?

No, this isn’t a column about whatshisname, the guy on Twitter, who’s getting plenty of attention. It’s about Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House.

How did Mr. Ryan reach a position where his actions may reshape the lives of so many of his fellow citizens, in most cases very much for the worse? The answer lies in the impenetrable gullibility of his base. No, not his constituents: the news media, who made him what he is.

You see, until very recently both news coverage and political punditry were dominated by the convention of “balance.” This meant, in particular, that when it came to policy debates one was always supposed to present both sides as having equally well-founded arguments. And this in turn meant that it was necessary to point to serious, honest, knowledgeable proponents of conservative positions.

Enter Mr. Ryan, who isn’t actually a serious, honest policy expert, but plays one on TV. He rolls up his sleeves! He uses PowerPoint! He must be the real deal! So that became the media’s narrative. And media adulation, more than anything else, propelled him to his current position.


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Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:26 am to
Since paul krugman NEVER criticizes the leadership skills of pelosi and schumer he is merely a artian hack.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28101 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:43 am to
I think we can all agree that this is a resounding endorsement of Paul Ryan, whether or not you like him.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68043 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:43 am to
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You see, until very recently both news coverage and political punditry were dominated by the convention of “balance.” This meant, in particular, that when it came to policy debates one was always supposed to present both sides as having equally well-founded arguments

Wow, Krugman's lack of insight into himself is astonishing. He's totally blind.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23056 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:52 am to
Krugman: did not read
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:03 am to
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You see, until very recently both news coverage and political punditry were dominated by the convention of “balance.”


I guess Krugman thinks balance is decrying a policy idea during the Bush years then championing the same exact policy during the Obama years.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 8:05 am
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:13 am to
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Paul Krugman


This guy said some Kurt Eichenwald level insane tweets during election season. He's mentally unstable.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:14 am to
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This guy said some Kurt Eichenwald level insane tweets during election season. He's mentally unstable.
Actually think he's very stable, and he's just knows what he's doing as a partisan hack. I think this makes him worse than Kurt.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57091 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:17 am to
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Paul Ryan is the biggest con man in Washington not Donald Trump
I tend to agree.

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And it’s important to keep the horror of our political situation up front, to keep highlighting the lies, the cruelty, the bad judgment.
Now it's time to start?

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At the same time, however, we should be asking ourselves how the people running our government came to wield such power. How, in particular, did a man whose fraudulence, lack of concern for those he claims to care about and lack of policy coherence should have been obvious to everyone nonetheless manage to win over so many gullible souls?
We've been asking this since Obama's first election.

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You see, until very recently both news coverage and political punditry were dominated by the convention of “balance.”
So.. while I read the slug and thought--this may be a rare time I agree with Krugman, he drops this stupidity.

After a whopper like that I just can't take him seriously.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 9:19 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:18 am to
Don't care for Krugman, but he's mostly right here. Ryan is a faux-intellectual. Where he's wrong is labeling him the biggest con man in DC. That goes to our President.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:12 am to
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Paul Krugman: Paul Ryan is the biggest con man in Washington not Donald Trump

I'd say Bernie sanders is the biggest con artist.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:26 am to
Krugman, the Nobel committee, The NY Times, the MSM, Obama, and the DNC are just a provencial libtard circle jerk with delusions of grandeur!

Do you really care?!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:30 am to
hard to beat a Kruggles melt!
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:32 am to
Reading Nassim Taleb nuke Krugman is one of the great joys of life.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:15 pm to
I'm no fan of Paul Ryan's, but in terms of con men in Congress, he's behind literally every Democrat in both officces.

Someone please tell me anything that Maxine Water, Elijah Cummings, Al Franken, Elizabeth Warrent, and a host of other idiots have done that actually helped a majority of Americans.


BUT, the fault is ours, we get the representation we elect.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90499 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:41 pm to
For once I agree with Krugman.

We lack leadership and that's because the media props up puppets for the special interest groups, not real leaders who can get the job done for the people.

The healthcare flop wasn't Trumps fault nor do I blame the freedom caucus. It lies solely on Ryan and the establishment for putting out a shite bill and leadership not having the balls to use enough parliamentary tricks and deal makings to get it passed.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:44 pm to
I used to enjoy reading Krugman years ago, when he wrote more on economics. He is now one of the worst hacks around. Like Dana Milbank bad.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57091 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:48 pm to
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For once I agree with Krugman.
Better put an expiration date on that. He'll flip the other way at any time. He's made a career of taking both sides of an issue--then patting himself on the back for being right.

Krugman vs. Krugman

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[] Krugman 2003 [deficit at 3% of GDP, 10-year deficit projection $1.8 trillion]: "I'm terrified ... we're looking at a fiscal crisis that will drive interest rates sky-high ... the conclusion is inescapable ... the task is simply impossible ... the fiscal train wreck, is already under way." Or,

[] Krugman 2009 [deficit at 11% of GDP, 10-year deficit projection $9 trillion]: What's to worry? The Ozzie & Harriet era of government finance will be easy enough to bring back. Just stabilize the debt in terms of GDP and be happy!



Bush baaaaad, Obama goooood.

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The numbers? The deficit in fiscal year 2004 -- $413 billion, 3.5 percent of the gross domestic product.

Back then, a disapproving Krugman called the deficit "comparable to the worst we've ever seen in this country. ... The only time postwar that the United States has had anything like these deficits is the middle Reagan years, and that was with unemployment close to 10 percent." Take away the Social Security surplus spent by the government, he said, and "we're running at a deficit of more than 6 percent of GDP, and that is unprecedented."

...Fast-forward to 2010.

The numbers: projected deficit for fiscal year 2010 -- over $1.5 trillion, more than 10 percent of GDP.

This sets a post-WWII record in both absolute numbers and as a percentage of GDP. And if the Obama administration's optimistic projections of the economic growth fall short, things will get much worse. So what does Krugman say now?

We must guard against "deficit hysteria." In "Fiscal Scare Tactics," his recent column, Krugman writes: "These days it's hard to pick up a newspaper or turn on a news program without encountering stern warnings about the federal budget deficit. The deficit threatens economic recovery, we're told; it puts American economic stability at risk; it will undermine our influence in the world. These claims generally aren't stated as opinions, as views held by some analysts but disputed by others. Instead, they're reported as if they were facts, plain and simple."

He continues, "And fear-mongering on the deficit may end up doing as much harm as the fear-mongering on weapons of mass destruction." Krugman believes Bush lied us into the Iraq War. Just as people unreasonably feared Saddam Hussein, they now have an unwarranted fear of today's deficit.

Questions: Didn't Krugman, less than six years ago, call the deficit "enormous"? Wouldn't he, therefore, consider a $1.5 trillion deficit at 10 percent of GDP mega-normous? Didn't he describe the economy with 5.5 percent unemployment as "weak"? Isn't the current economy, at 9.7 percent unemployment, even weaker? If the 2004 deficit was "comparable to the worst we've ever seen in this country," wouldn't today's much bigger deficit cause even more heartburn?

Nope. Now a huge deficit is actually a good thing: "The point is that running big defict
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28101 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:51 pm to
That is amazing. The fact that the world's most famous Keynesian ever thought the deficit was a problem in the Bush years is hilarious.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:53 pm to
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We lack leadership and that's because the media props up puppets


The media... the media.... the media
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