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re: Only Rubio can win

Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:55 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:55 am to
Outside of trade, I support most of Trump's platform. What Rubio policies are you a fan of?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71657 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:58 am to
The best thing about Rubio is that he called Trump out wearing those boots.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:09 am to
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We let the MSM tell us lies. We believe the polls! We certainly have a lesson to learn in that regard, and it is a very important lesson.


We let them? Yes, but we haven't learned to exercised our power, to thwart the power of a MSM that has an agenda yet. If not for talk radio and to some extent FOX NEWS, we don't have a voice. I for one, have canceled my subscription to our local rag of a news paper own by the NYTs.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:10 am to
His taste in footwear

Also, a key difference is reforming entitlements. That, along with SCOTUS, is my biggest issue.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:11 am to
Mate, how will you feel when Honest Ted is sitting on the bench?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48352 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:13 am to
I hope it's OK that I responded this thread by wishing everybody a Happy Thanksgiving Week !
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:17 am to
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quote:Trump won convincingly


I think most would agree; obviously you don't. Look, Trump won several states that are normally Democrat strongholds: Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. He also won in battleground states that had been won by Obama in 2012: Florida, Ohio and Iowa. And yes, the Clinton won the popular vote but it was very close.

Let me ask you this: What states would your preferred candidate had won that Trump didn't win?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:22 am to
Deeply terrified for my friends on Facebook who live a certain lifestyle that might be different from mine, or wanting to access reproductive healthcare.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71657 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I think most would agree


Among Trump's supporters, obviously.

quote:

Trump won several states that are normally Democrat strongholds


Thanks in large part to low turnout...

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What states would your preferred candidate had won that Trump didn't win?


Who knows. Maybe Virginia and Colorado.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11706 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:05 am to
To say during the primaries that Rubio had a better chance to win than Trump wasn't as crazy then as it is now. Trump was always a high risk, high reward candidate, his ceiling was 306 but his floor was in the 220s. Rubio on the other hand had a ceiling of 285ish and a floor around the 250s.

No one until around Super Tuesday saw that Trump was an absolute madman with campaigning, it was absolutely nuts how many rallies he held and that more than made up for his "lack of ground game." Wikileaks absolutely gave Trump the gas he needed to finish the race. If it persuaded even 1,000 voters in the close states then it was a major development.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:26 pm to
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I eviscerated yall relentlessly on matters of substance.


You eviscerated some people in your own mind, almost entirely using Trump's misspeaks. Which wasn't a difficult task.

You never really did this on tax policy. When pushed on Rubio's tax policy you produced his Congressional plan, which is actually better than most on here produced.

And not one of you ever did admit certain policies are tariff like in their impact, and a tariff against these policies is not a unilateral tariff.

Nor are any of you going to. The only guy that ever engaged had to admit his was wrong about milk and dairy being seasonal.

But the rest of you, and you included, basically asked for links, and basically said, "I'm smarter than you. I win. I'm right."

The only really good posts were when you and Russian got in pissing matches. The rest were somewhat academic arguments with almost no real world application.

But I'll give you credit, when you actually got serious, which was infrequent, you did bring up some good points. Where you failed is you were never comfortable considering other arguments.

In a world where strategic withdrawals for the later (and usually bigger and better) victory is a necessity to advance, this is a character trait that will prove the Peter Principal to be accurate.

Lastly, I spoke about instinct a lot during the campaign, specifically to you and Ohio Buckeye fan. I got made fun of a lot for this. At this point I'd hope you would at least consider developing and trusting instinct, I think you'll find it will serve you well.

You have potential. iosh has a long way to go. He must be younger. FWIW, whatever someone on here did to him is completely unacceptable. Part of why most of us are on message boards is to blow off steam. That he would feel threatened by someone who disagreed with him (especially on a message board) is baffling to me.

Good luck to you.

Sincerely,

Typical Northerner (I believe this is what you called me)
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19067 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:40 pm to
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Actually many GOPe supporters were saying almost anyone other than Trump could have beaten Clinton easily.

I believe Cruz would have won easily. He would have killed her in the debates and he didn't have the baggage Trump had. But, in the end I ended up supporting Trump. Based on the cabinet he's putting together it seems to be the right choice.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:19 pm to
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FWIW, whatever someone on here did to him is completely unacceptable.


I agree. It's the board's loss in my opinion. I hope he's doing well.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146732 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:19 am to
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He hasn't. He freely admitted he was using an alter.


Link?

quote:

That has little to do with anything I said.

It never does because everything you say is megatons more intelligent than everyone else.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146732 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:08 am to
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Do not engage him. He is here to say complicated things, usually about polling methodology, and dairy products being seasonal. Designed to sound incredibly intelligent. Having been proven wrong on both, and not really having posted anything of substance on policy, he should be ignored.

The grown ups are now in charge, let these people be left behind.

A perfect description of Cuckeye.
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