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Only Rubio can win
Posted on 11/20/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 8:57 pm to TrueTiger
Lou Pai was incredibly cucked for a time.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 8:59 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
Only Rubio can win
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:08 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:33 pm to TrueTiger
I thought it was only Kasich that could win? and Ryan? and Romney?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:35 pm to airfernando
It was "anyone but Trump."
The best was when "principled Conservatives" started supporting Gary Johnson without doing any research but slowly learned over time what a looney loser he was.
The best was when "principled Conservatives" started supporting Gary Johnson without doing any research but slowly learned over time what a looney loser he was.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:08 pm to Lou Pai
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:28 pm to The Baker
None of it makes sense-- I was just playing up the villain stuff for dramatic effect since my insightful and incisive posts clearly have a prominent and long-lasting (see OP) effect on many people's lives on here. Also relieved KILLary lost and glad the cabinet seems to be mostly conservative, this I can tell you.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:29 pm to TrueTiger
Trump was the only Republican who could win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and thusly the election.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:40 am to Lou Pai
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:43 am to TrueTiger
quote:Silly OP, and a very stale topic.
Only Rubio can win
First off, Nate Silver aside, I don't recall "only Rubio can win" being a serious contention on anyone's part here. Rubio was absolutely the surest thing though.
Secondly, notwithstanding the fact you and others fail to recognize it, Trump was a huge huge risk. His odds of pulling off what he did were far less than would have been the case for several other GOP candidates. That is why he was actively selected by TeamClinton as their preferred opponent.
Ultimately Clinton was so flawed, she even lost to Trump. But it still took a combination of Wikileaks along with an FBI October surprise to hoist him over-the-top. Assertions that Rubio, or Pence, or Kasich, or Cruz, or Romney or others would not have beaten Clinton are just bizarre.
Look, Trump won. He won against all odds. He could potentially be great in office. Why even go to the "He was the ONLY guy who could have beaten Clinton?" He wasn't. So why go there?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:15 am to NC_Tigah
There is a reason I keep emphasizing fallacy in the "only Trump could win" argument. It may well be the case, amongst a group including names such as Biden, Webb, Sanders, Warren, Cuomo, etc., only Clinton could have lost.
if you understand that, yet still insist "only Trump could win," it does not bode well for future POTUS elections.
if you understand that, yet still insist "only Trump could win," it does not bode well for future POTUS elections.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:18 am to NC_Tigah
What other candidate would've done as well in the Rust Belt? Do you think Rubio's softness on illegal immigration and penchant for supporting trade deals would've been more successful than Trump's message?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:46 am to NIH
quote:The salient question is what other candidate would have needed to?
What other candidate would've done as well in the Rust Belt?
But to your point, even vs Obama and with his GOTV collapse, Romney'12 out totaled Clinton'16 in Ohio.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:56 am to NC_Tigah
yeah - no reason to beat people over the head with this stick
I was for Rubio early on because he looked like the strongest candidate with the best chance to win
I thought for a long time that Trump was toast during the campaign - so happy I was wrong
I will say this; my position FROM THE START was that I would support the Republican nominee (much like Reince Priebus) - so why mess with Lou?
I was for Rubio early on because he looked like the strongest candidate with the best chance to win
I thought for a long time that Trump was toast during the campaign - so happy I was wrong
I will say this; my position FROM THE START was that I would support the Republican nominee (much like Reince Priebus) - so why mess with Lou?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:59 am to NC_Tigah
What electoral map would you have projected to where he didn't need the rust belt?
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 6:59 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:01 am to TrueTiger
Wow. How salty were you guys when they locked threads like this so you couldn't bump them? I say 14/10.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:04 am to TrueTiger
Actually many GOPe supporters were saying almost anyone other than Trump could have beaten Clinton easily.
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