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One Romans take on Illegal Immigrants
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:10 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:10 am
I'm in northern Italy working for 2 weeks. Accompanying our team is a colleague from Rome that doubles as a translator. After spending the last week with him, including 2 non-work days in Milan. When our topic reached immigrants he agreed it was an epidemic, he said that most romans simply ignore the 2 million illegal Eastern European and Middle Eastern immigrants. Even in Milan the amount of people living on the streets is pretty filthy.
Why are our politicians so dead set on us taking these people when their nearest neighbors don't want them?
Why are our politicians so dead set on us taking these people when their nearest neighbors don't want them?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:13 am to Larry Gooseman
Worker shortages/ cheap labor and declining population across Europe. These are the reasons Merkel and her like cling to.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:57 am to Larry Gooseman
Politicians front with economic reasons but WASP guilt is the driving factor.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:35 am to Rakim
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Worker shortages/ cheap labor and declining population across Europe. These are the reasons Merkel and her like cling to.
This is the answer....
There is an old racist southern joke which goes something like this..."If I had known the trouble that black folks would bring I would have picked my own damn cotton....". That is exactly what is going on in Europe as we speak....capitalists are hurting for cheap labor to do the work that can't be done outside of Germany and France, lets say...the same way that white southerners needed cheap labor back in the day. Like their earlier counterparts that labor is not going to go away when it is no longer needed....it is going to be a major part of the population...this is why the old addage about labor being a commodity and having a market price is so fricking wrong....but that is another discussion.
The capitalists in Europe will do anything for cheap labor...if that means destroying europe so be it.....our ancestord didn't think anything at all about brutalizing and subjecting other humans to the worst imaginable horrors in the search for an almighty dollar...and now those greedy frickers ancestors are all about "things that work in white Europe won't work in the multicultural United States..."
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:04 am to germandawg
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The capitalists in Europe will do anything for cheap labor...
Not so fast. There is another culprit and it isn't capitalism.
You can blame the socialist governments who needed taxpayers to help pay for their socialist programs. The European birth rate was too low to provide enough new taxpayers.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:08 am to Larry Gooseman
Because they have their heads in the sand. "It's easier for me to ignore the reality of what it's doing to my country than have the balls to step up to the plate and call it like it is."
There is your answer.
There is your answer.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:47 am to Larry Gooseman
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Why are our politicians so dead set on us taking these people when their nearest neighbors don't want them?
It's the hooten plan.
Also consider that the leaders of Germany, France, Britain, and Italy do not have children. They have no reason to preserve the way of the life for a better future. Our political/economic system is also profits at all costs, you need that in a ponzi.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:02 am to Larry Gooseman
quote:I was in Rome 2 years ago. There was an inordinate number of dark-skinned, non-Italian people there speaking some other language (my observation), often times sitting around in bullshite sessions and just talking to each other, or street-peddling trinkets and selfie-sticks. They were like weeds in a flower garden. They were everywhere. I'm prejudiced and proud of it.
When our topic reached immigrants he agreed it was an epidemic,
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:07 am to tigerpawl
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I was in Rome 2 years ago. There was an inordinate number of dark-skinned, non-Italian people there speaking some other language (my observation), often times sitting around in bullshite sessions and just talking to each other, or street-peddling trinkets and selfie-sticks. They were like weeds in a flower garden. They were everywhere. I'm prejudiced and proud of it.
Most people here don't travel overseas that much. But if they did in the last few years and saw what is happening, they'd want 5 walls around the USA.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:33 am to MullenBoys
quote:The thing that really pissed me off was when we were eating a nice meal at a sidewalk cafe, these guys would go from table to table trying to get you to buy their stuff. I mastered a very effective "Go frick yourself" scowl that managed to keep them at bay, but I just don't think I should be expected to do that in those circumstances. The Italian Polizia are the forerunners of the Berkley PD.
But if they did in the last few years and saw what is happening, they'd want 5 walls around the USA.
From 10 years ago: LINK
2014: LINK
"The merchants association of Rome (Confcommercio) is once again up in arms against a growing army of illegal peddlers who are taking business away from legitimate stores, evading taxes and dirtying an already chaotic city and distracting attention from Rome's marvelous monuments and medieval buildings. I couldn't agree more and think it is shameful that Rome's new mayor (like his predecessors) is doing next to nothing about it."
I've often heard this old adage: "If you want to look into the future [in the U.S.], just look at Europe today". It will begin in L.A. and N.Y. first, then spread slowly like a plague.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 8:37 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:12 am to ChEgrad
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Not so fast. There is another culprit and it isn't capitalism.
You can blame the socialist governments who needed taxpayers to help pay for their socialist programs. The European birth rate was too low to provide enough new taxpayers.
You may have a valid point but I would bet that the social programs are more expensive than the taxes paid can cover...
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:18 am to ChEgrad
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Not so fast. There is another culprit and it isn't capitalism. You can blame the socialist governments who needed taxpayers to help pay for their socialist programs. The European birth rate was too low to provide enough new taxpayers.
Dumbest most convoluted logic I've ever read.
Shrinking tax base can't support cheap labor or more people going on the government dole!
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:41 pm to Jjdoc
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:49 pm to tigerpawl
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I was in Rome 2 years ago. There was an inordinate number of dark-skinned, non-Italian people there speaking some other language (my observation), often times sitting around in bullshite sessions and just talking to each other, or street-peddling trinkets and selfie-sticks. They were like weeds in a flower garden.
Same thing 4 years ago, though one of them did come in handy when I negotiated a 2 for 1 deal on some umbrellas when we got caught by a sudden rain storm as we were walking around. Probably still paid too much, but me and the girl I was with stayed dry.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:36 pm to Loserman
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Dumbest most convoluted logic I've ever read. Shrinking tax base can't support cheap labor or more people going on the government dole!
Per Forbes: LINK
"For decades, the wealthier countries of the northern countries -- notably Germany -- have offset very low fertility rates and declining domestic demand by attracting migrants from other countries, notably from eastern and southern Europe, and building highly productive export oriented economies."
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:50 pm to Larry Gooseman
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Why are our politicians so dead set on us taking these people when their nearest neighbors don't want them?
Why do people thinks it's ok to invade and steal land. Then refer to themselves as original inhabitants and label others "illegal immigrants". These are some good, pure Christians. John Wesley, CS Lewis studied God-fearing folks.
#hypocrites #evil
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 6:55 pm
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