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re: Once Gay Rights Are Fully Recognized...What Is The Next Civil Rights Frontier?

Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:34 pm to
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What will be the new battleground for civil rights?


Family law and male equality.

Most people don't know or think about the sexist against men family law system, but ir really is shocking how men on the whole get the shaft there.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:34 pm to
Polygamists

Then pedophiles
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:34 pm to
Still asking...

What are gay rights?

What rights as afforded to citizens by The Bill of Rights are denied to Homosexuals?

Marriage is the typical response but marriage is not a Constitutional Right. I support gay marriage but it is not a designated right as afforded by the Constitution.

I'm still waiting to hear what Constitutional right is denied homosexuals so I can figure out what gay rights even means.
Posted by veerbone
Mangham, LA
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:35 pm to
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Pedophila will be next.


Beat me to it
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:35 pm to
Legal status for Polygamous.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:35 pm to
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I know you meant this in jest, but historically the pendulum always swings back because kids like to rebel and if you have pushed the envelope to the extreme on one side, the only way to rebel is to go back the other way. Of course sometimes the slouching towards Gamorrah leads to total destruction.




I never jest when it comes to repealing the 19th Amendment.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Legal status for Polygamous


As stated before, the biggest hurdle is that civil rights "progression" seemed to be owned by the lib/progs and I don't see them carrying the water for Utah.

Moreover, one wife is enough trouble, why would any man want more than one?
Posted by JakeTheDog
Arizona
Member since Jan 2014
152 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Still asking...

What are gay rights?

What rights as afforded to citizens by The Bill of Rights are denied to Homosexuals?

Marriage is the typical response but marriage is not a Constitutional Right. I support gay marriage but it is not a designated right as afforded by the Constitution.

I'm still waiting to hear what Constitutional right is denied homosexuals so I can figure out what gay rights even means.


Their whole argument is they can't marry who that want.

Kind of like my post from the other page, once you open the door to allowing two men or two women to marry, who is to say three men or women cannot get married? And since we've gone that far, who is to say two sisters can't get married? Or a brother & sister or even mom & son? Or mom marry both her son & daughter for that matter? How do you deny them that "right" once you've allowed it for two men or two women?
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4864 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:40 pm to
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i've been asking this question on here for almost a year, especially since all the people who can't answer are fricking bigots for currently discriminating against this as of yet un-named group



Boom. Nailed that invisible straw man.

Who are you going after next? Bigots that don't tolerate intolerance?
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:41 pm to
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I'm still waiting to hear what Constitutional right is denied homosexuals so I can figure out what gay rights even means.

The constitutional right would be equal rights.
They are denied rights that are granted to heterosexual married couples.
Here is a list of some of those rights LINK
Me personally, I argue that marriage should not be given those rights.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:45 pm to
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As stated before, the biggest hurdle is that civil rights "progression" seemed to be owned by the lib/progs and I don't see them carrying the water for Utah.


Which is why it will be civil rights for illegal aliens. Hell, they just made one a lawyer in California (and we may have one in the white house as well).

I can't wait for the day that we have illegal aliens suing middle class housewives for not paying minimum wage for cleaning the house

By the way, had an illegal cleaning our house in NYC for $27/hour because that's what a good housekeeper costs in NYC. Does anyone really think that someone that is really good at what they do is only making minimum wage? Seriously?
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:49 pm to
I prefaced both of my posts saying I was not an opponent of gay marriage as long as the government did not mandate that opposed religious organizations acknowledge and perform said ceremonies.

I was speaking in regards to individual Constitutional rights.

It's always been "gay rights." I am a heterosexual and checking off all of the boxes I can't find a right that I have in the Bill of Rights that is denied a Homosexual citizen.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3212 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:57 pm to
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The constitutional right would be equal rights.
They are denied rights that are granted to heterosexual married couples.
Here is a list of some of those rights LINK
Me personally, I argue that marriage should not be given those rights.


I would suggest the application of "Rights" as it relates to the constitution is being applied incorrectly here.

By your application of this term, when they change the reg's on any of these IRS codes then my rights have been violated.

No that is not the way it works...

These are merely codes in a tax system, not rights granted by our constitution.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:57 pm to
The Bill of Rights: The Ninth
The Constitution: The Fourteenth
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:03 pm to
you are right, i should have used the word, protections
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:37 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:15 pm to
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As stated before, the biggest hurdle is that civil rights "progression" seemed to be owned by the lib/progs and I don't see them carrying the water for Utah.




How can a liberal judge deny them legal status now that they have opened this Pandora's Box?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:25 pm to
polygamy
then bestiality
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Polygamists


You are probably correct but it could be equal pay for uneducated people with shitty jobs with the pay educated people with good jobs get.

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 5:28 pm to
The only frontier I see happening would be Rights for minors.

Its probably worthwhile revisiting what are the rights for minors anyway, assuming we keep it civil.
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