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Obama lost 4 million votes from 2008 to 2012
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:13 pm
What prevents Trump from having this happen to him? Why did this happen to Obama?
2008 Obama - 69.5 millions votes (365 electoral votes), McCain - 60 million votes
2012 Obama - 66 million (332 electoral votes), Romney - 61 million votes
2008 Obama - 69.5 millions votes (365 electoral votes), McCain - 60 million votes
2012 Obama - 66 million (332 electoral votes), Romney - 61 million votes
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:14 pm to Stidham8
quote:
What prevents Trump from having this happen to him? Why did this happen to Obama?
because he has nothing whatsoever in common with obama?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:14 pm to Stidham8
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:00 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:15 pm to Stidham8
Looks like 3.5 to me
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:15 pm to gthog61
A lot of stupid fricks who idiotically voted for Obama wised up...but not enough to vote for Romney. Likely just sat it out.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:16 pm to Stidham8
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Why did this happen to Obama?
Because the allure of the first black candidate was over. I also knew a ton of impressionable kids in college who voted for Obama in 2008 because they thought he was "cool" and changed their tune 4 years later after they figured out he was full of shite
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:17 pm to Stidham8
You are over simplifying the vote count; it needs to be broken down by state, and especially by swing states. It could be that NY, CA, and IL did not show up in 2012 because Obama was guaranteed those electoral votes.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:17 pm to Stidham8
Enthusiasm for Obama was declining
Don’t really see Trump having an enthusiasm problem
Don’t really see Trump having an enthusiasm problem
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:18 pm to Stidham8
quote:
Why did this happen to Obama?
Obama/ Biden shoved a new healthcare law through while lying that you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor and premiums would be no more than $2500. Also, they launched a failed website that cost more than Trump’s border wall
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:23 pm to Stidham8
The total vote was less. That helped Obama even though he has less votes.
If the total vote is less in 2020 than 2016 that will help Trump also.
Biden has nowhere near the ground game Hillary had. She spent 4 years building her organization.
Trump is much more organized for his re election. (like Obama was)
Trump is no shoe in but he is still in a strong position.
If the total vote is less in 2020 than 2016 that will help Trump also.
Biden has nowhere near the ground game Hillary had. She spent 4 years building her organization.
Trump is much more organized for his re election. (like Obama was)
Trump is no shoe in but he is still in a strong position.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:24 pm to Tiger985
quote:
The total vote was less. That helped Obama even though he has less votes.
If the total vote is less in 2020 than 2016 that will help Trump also.
Biden has nowhere near the ground game Hillary had. She spent 4 years building her organization.
Trump is much more organized for his re election. (like Obama was)
Trump is no shoe in but he is still in a strong position.
The total vote was less for Obama. Romney got more votes than McCain.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:24 pm to Stidham8
Trump has no white guilt voters that were willing to vote for him once but not twice.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:25 pm to Stidham8
Too many whities in the first election voted for Obama as a lark, a joke, something to giggle about with your friends. They thought they were being cool, edgy, unique and they were white knighting the frick out of Obama because they thought doing so made them better than you. And then, like we all knew, the Emperor wore no clothes, and existed to serve only his self-preening smugness and to create division and anarchy. Many who gave him their vote were shocked, surprised, dismayed, disappointed and frightened of what they'd created, and so bailed on him against Romney, only......
...not enough bailed on him. Although, to his credit, Obama DID give us Trump. Had Romney won then, maybe Trump isn't the Republican candidate this year for President, or ever.
Thanks, Obama!
...not enough bailed on him. Although, to his credit, Obama DID give us Trump. Had Romney won then, maybe Trump isn't the Republican candidate this year for President, or ever.
Thanks, Obama!
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:25 pm to Bourre
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Obama/ Biden shoved a new healthcare law through while lying that you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor and premiums would be no more than $2500. Also, they launched a failed website that cost more than Trump’s border wall
Trump had a virus from China fall in his lap reelection year that obviously isn't helping him.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:31 pm to Stidham8
Biden didn’t stare into the camera and implore people to vote because voter enthusiasm is going in his favor
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:53 pm to Stidham8
Trump actually kept his promises unlike Mr. Obama?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:06 pm to Stidham8
quote:
What prevents Trump from having this happen to him? Why did this happen to Obama?
2008 Obama - 69.5 millions votes (365 electoral votes), McCain - 60 million votes
2012 Obama - 66 million (332 electoral votes), Romney - 61 million votes
Because people started getting fricked on their insurance premiums starting in 2011. The other reason was many of the people that were excited the first time around got lazy and didn't think they needed to vote the 2nd time. It's real easy when you say live in Cali and already know he is going to win those EV's to just sit home and not bother.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:07 pm to gthog61
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because he has nothing whatsoever in common with obama?
Yea, trump has a much lower approval rating than Obama when Obama was up for re-election.
For real, the amount of cognitive dissonance on this board after yesterday amazes me.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:16 pm to rpr4695
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This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:19 pm to Stidham8
Obama lost 4 million people who were white guilting in 2008. The "shiny toy" aspect was gone.
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